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Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

September 10, 2019 05:48AM
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JamesJM
i think you miss my point... although you still disagree. You're all in on a rebirth at age 27-28. I don't think it happened that way at all.

Kurt was lighting it up in Arena ball as well, not just later in Europe. There is no question he 'developed'... but his 'baseline' was high, and existent from the start. His talent was overlooked by the NFL, IMO... and others.

You can say the NFL is always right and use that as proof but I don't think that's accurate.

I like your line: "Let's see how Goff is when he's 28. That will be in 2022. I think it's possible for him to equal or surpass Kurt in his career, though that takes nothing away from Kurt."

Although I think matching Kurt is a long shot.... but mostly what I take from that is this - , saying Kurt was Kurt at 24 takes nothing away from Goff. - JamesJM

Even Kurt himself admits in his book(which is a must read btw) that he wasn't ready for the NFL in 94 (23 years old) scared to go out there and take reps ... Kurt the man was the same Kurt at 24, but he was far from the Kurt of 1999 football wise. Goff was out there taking a beating at 22 going 0-7 and now has the most wins in NFL including an NFC championship since that horrible start.

I like the trajectory





Keep The Faith !!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/10/2019 05:50AM by Rampage2K-.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Goff

Ramsfan691069September 08, 2019 05:29PM

  Re: Goff

Classicalwit267September 08, 2019 05:35PM

  Re: Its one game and he didn't play in the preseason

Speed_Kills263September 08, 2019 05:41PM

  Re: Its one game and he didn't play in the preseason

Classicalwit180September 08, 2019 05:51PM

  Hasn't this been the ongoing conversation?

moklerman146September 08, 2019 11:32PM

  in fairness

RamUK165September 09, 2019 07:22AM

  Re: Goff

zn257September 08, 2019 05:44PM

  Well, yeah, but he confuses me.

JamesJM186September 08, 2019 05:55PM

  Re: Well, yeah, but he confuses me.

zn155September 08, 2019 07:37PM

  Re: Goff

Classicalwit142September 08, 2019 06:12PM

  So...

Saguaro136September 08, 2019 07:16PM

  Re: Goff

zn127September 08, 2019 07:41PM

  Goff just seemed rusty...

Rams43151September 08, 2019 07:31PM

  a bit of rust...

LMU93116September 09, 2019 04:07AM

  here's the test for me...try it at home next game...

SunTzu_vs_Camus178September 09, 2019 07:20AM

  Goff is better than Warner ?

waterfield137September 09, 2019 08:01AM

  nw...waterfield

SunTzu_vs_Camus103September 09, 2019 08:06AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?/ Not

jim beam108September 09, 2019 08:14AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?/ Not

waterfield100September 09, 2019 09:31AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-127September 09, 2019 08:15AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

jim beam104September 09, 2019 08:35AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

moklerman103September 09, 2019 09:57AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-105September 09, 2019 10:00AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

moklerman84September 09, 2019 10:28AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-84September 09, 2019 10:55AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

Speed_Kills99September 09, 2019 11:57AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

stlramz94September 09, 2019 12:01PM

  Re: ok but at 24

Speed_Kills80September 09, 2019 12:06PM

  Re: ok but at 24

stlramz72September 09, 2019 12:18PM

  Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

JamesJM83September 09, 2019 12:10PM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

zn96September 10, 2019 03:58AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

JamesJM85September 10, 2019 05:01AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

Rampage2K-56September 10, 2019 05:48AM

  I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

JamesJM69September 10, 2019 05:56AM

  Re: Good job Jim! nm

Speed_Kills53September 10, 2019 05:58AM

  Re: I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

Rampage2K-75September 10, 2019 06:03AM

  Re: I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

zn61September 10, 2019 06:24AM

  Well, just one more comment...

JamesJM61September 10, 2019 06:30AM

  Re: Well, just one more comment...

zn70September 10, 2019 06:33AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

zn62September 10, 2019 05:52AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

Rampage2K-96September 09, 2019 01:23PM

  I will make this really easy for you...what was Warner doing at 23-24???

Rampage2K-71September 09, 2019 01:22PM

  Re: this is one weird thread

Speed_Kills93September 09, 2019 11:16AM

  It's not at all surprising Speed

waterfield89September 09, 2019 12:13PM

  Re: I guess but...

Speed_Kills68September 09, 2019 12:22PM

  Actually, if I err...

JamesJM73September 09, 2019 12:24PM

  Re: It's not at all surprising Speed

Rampage2K-74September 09, 2019 02:07PM

  I'm with you

Suh-weet!58September 10, 2019 12:13PM

  naw

zn78September 10, 2019 04:02AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Steve62September 10, 2019 05:17AM

  Story has just begun for Goff...

Suh-weet!52September 10, 2019 12:18PM

  Re: Story has just begun for Goff...

kw1353September 10, 2019 01:01PM

  Re: Story has just begun for Goff...

Rampage2K-60September 10, 2019 01:14PM

  Drew Brees at age 24

Suh-weet!68September 10, 2019 03:39PM

  Re: Drew Brees at age 24

CraigMatson60September 10, 2019 07:34PM

  Re: you lost me by saying he is better than Warner

Speed_Kills75September 09, 2019 11:10AM

  I'm sure I lost a lotta folks with that one!!! lol

SunTzu_vs_Camus81September 09, 2019 11:51AM

  I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner...

JamesJM93September 09, 2019 11:57AM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner either

Speed_Kills82September 09, 2019 12:00PM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner either

zn89September 09, 2019 12:24PM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner...

Classicalwit67September 09, 2019 12:10PM

  Re: the example you gave is a good one

Speed_Kills61September 09, 2019 12:17PM

  this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

zn115September 09, 2019 01:12PM

  yeah, good breakdown of the miscommunication...

SunTzu_vs_Camus65September 10, 2019 03:45AM

  Re: this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

stlramz100September 10, 2019 07:54AM

  Re: this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

zn66September 10, 2019 02:41PM

  Sorry to puncture your carton of juice....

NewMexicoRam80September 10, 2019 02:54PM

  Re: Sorry to puncture your carton of juice....

zn58September 11, 2019 06:13AM

  Re: Goff

BeachBoy86September 09, 2019 01:27PM

  Re: Goff

CraigMatson94September 10, 2019 05:16AM

  Re: Goff

zn98September 10, 2019 05:27AM