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Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

September 10, 2019 05:48AM
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JamesJM
i think you miss my point... although you still disagree. You're all in on a rebirth at age 27-28. I don't think it happened that way at all.

Kurt was lighting it up in Arena ball as well, not just later in Europe. There is no question he 'developed'... but his 'baseline' was high, and existent from the start. His talent was overlooked by the NFL, IMO... and others.

You can say the NFL is always right and use that as proof but I don't think that's accurate.

I like your line: "Let's see how Goff is when he's 28. That will be in 2022. I think it's possible for him to equal or surpass Kurt in his career, though that takes nothing away from Kurt."

Although I think matching Kurt is a long shot.... but mostly what I take from that is this - , saying Kurt was Kurt at 24 takes nothing away from Goff. - JamesJM

Even Kurt himself admits in his book(which is a must read btw) that he wasn't ready for the NFL in 94 (23 years old) scared to go out there and take reps ... Kurt the man was the same Kurt at 24, but he was far from the Kurt of 1999 football wise. Goff was out there taking a beating at 22 going 0-7 and now has the most wins in NFL including an NFC championship since that horrible start.

I like the trajectory



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/10/2019 05:50AM by Rampage2K-.
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  Goff

Ramsfan69957September 08, 2019 05:29PM

  Re: Goff

Classicalwit200September 08, 2019 05:35PM

  Re: Its one game and he didn't play in the preseason

Speed_Kills206September 08, 2019 05:41PM

  Re: Its one game and he didn't play in the preseason

Classicalwit124September 08, 2019 05:51PM

  Hasn't this been the ongoing conversation?

moklerman80September 08, 2019 11:32PM

  in fairness

RamUK73September 09, 2019 07:22AM

  Re: Goff

zn191September 08, 2019 05:44PM

  Well, yeah, but he confuses me.

JamesJM131September 08, 2019 05:55PM

  Re: Well, yeah, but he confuses me.

zn93September 08, 2019 07:37PM

  Re: Goff

Classicalwit92September 08, 2019 06:12PM

  So...

Saguaro70September 08, 2019 07:16PM

  Re: Goff

zn78September 08, 2019 07:41PM

  Goff just seemed rusty...

Rams4392September 08, 2019 07:31PM

  a bit of rust...

LMU9371September 09, 2019 04:07AM

  here's the test for me...try it at home next game...

SunTzu_vs_Camus119September 09, 2019 07:20AM

  Goff is better than Warner ?

waterfield82September 09, 2019 08:01AM

  nw...waterfield

SunTzu_vs_Camus65September 09, 2019 08:06AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?/ Not

jim beam65September 09, 2019 08:14AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?/ Not

waterfield50September 09, 2019 09:31AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-79September 09, 2019 08:15AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

jim beam53September 09, 2019 08:35AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

moklerman48September 09, 2019 09:57AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-56September 09, 2019 10:00AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

moklerman44September 09, 2019 10:28AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-43September 09, 2019 10:55AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

Speed_Kills51September 09, 2019 11:57AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

stlramz45September 09, 2019 12:01PM

  Re: ok but at 24

Speed_Kills38September 09, 2019 12:06PM

  Re: ok but at 24

stlramz38September 09, 2019 12:18PM

  Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

JamesJM46September 09, 2019 12:10PM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

zn36September 10, 2019 03:58AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

JamesJM31September 10, 2019 05:01AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

Rampage2K-27September 10, 2019 05:48AM

  I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

JamesJM28September 10, 2019 05:56AM

  Re: Good job Jim! nm

Speed_Kills11September 10, 2019 05:58AM

  Re: I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

Rampage2K-23September 10, 2019 06:03AM

  Re: I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

zn19September 10, 2019 06:24AM

  Well, just one more comment...

JamesJM21September 10, 2019 06:30AM

  Re: Well, just one more comment...

zn23September 10, 2019 06:33AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

zn20September 10, 2019 05:52AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

Rampage2K-36September 09, 2019 01:23PM

  I will make this really easy for you...what was Warner doing at 23-24???

Rampage2K-31September 09, 2019 01:22PM

  Re: this is one weird thread

Speed_Kills44September 09, 2019 11:16AM

  It's not at all surprising Speed

waterfield36September 09, 2019 12:13PM

  Re: I guess but...

Speed_Kills25September 09, 2019 12:22PM

  Actually, if I err...

JamesJM25September 09, 2019 12:24PM

  Re: It's not at all surprising Speed

Rampage2K-27September 09, 2019 02:07PM

  I'm with you

Suh-weet!13September 10, 2019 12:13PM

  naw

zn27September 10, 2019 04:02AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Steve20September 10, 2019 05:17AM

  Story has just begun for Goff...

Suh-weet!17September 10, 2019 12:18PM

  Re: Story has just begun for Goff...

kw1312September 10, 2019 01:01PM

  Re: Story has just begun for Goff...

Rampage2K-16September 10, 2019 01:14PM

  Drew Brees at age 24

Suh-weet!23September 10, 2019 03:39PM

  Re: Drew Brees at age 24

CraigMatson16September 10, 2019 07:34PM

  Re: you lost me by saying he is better than Warner

Speed_Kills33September 09, 2019 11:10AM

  I'm sure I lost a lotta folks with that one!!! lol

SunTzu_vs_Camus34September 09, 2019 11:51AM

  I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner...

JamesJM29September 09, 2019 11:57AM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner either

Speed_Kills28September 09, 2019 12:00PM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner either

zn36September 09, 2019 12:24PM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner...

Classicalwit23September 09, 2019 12:10PM

  Re: the example you gave is a good one

Speed_Kills27September 09, 2019 12:17PM

  this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

zn61September 09, 2019 01:12PM

  yeah, good breakdown of the miscommunication...

SunTzu_vs_Camus31September 10, 2019 03:45AM

  Re: this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

stlramz30September 10, 2019 07:54AM

  Re: this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

zn21September 10, 2019 02:41PM

  Sorry to puncture your carton of juice....

NewMexicoRam26September 10, 2019 02:54PM

  Re: Sorry to puncture your carton of juice....

zn18September 11, 2019 06:13AM

  Re: Goff

BeachBoy38September 09, 2019 01:27PM

  Re: Goff

CraigMatson45September 10, 2019 05:16AM

  Re: Goff

zn51September 10, 2019 05:27AM