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Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big ones

July 05, 2018 08:26AM
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CeeZar

So the only guy that held out and demanded a trade at the same time did not get traded. As for the rest of them, their disputes were not about money and in each case the team was not all that interested in keeping them in the first place. Again, not like the AD situation.

I appreciate the research. I probably have different conclusions that you.

What I take from this is, when players demand a trade, they typically get traded.

Keshawn Johnson - You forgot this one. Traded after his demand
Joey Galloway - Contract dispute, held out 8 games with Seattle in '99, led to trade after the season
Sean Gilbert - not traded, but forced his way off the team and got paid
Jay Culter
Martavis Bryant
Dickerson
Palmer
Chad Johnson - eventually traded.

It matters not if the dispute is about money. Looking for a perfect comparable is folly. First, there are few players that compare to Donald talent wise. Secondly, players are at different stages in their contracts or they're traded for none money reasons as you pointed out. Some were tagged, some were at earlier stages in the contract. Some held out, some didn't. But the bottom line is, they demanded to be traded and eventually were.

Given these examples, I think a better question is, how often do star players demand to be traded and aren't?

I've stated before, the real card AD has to play after being tagged is not just threatening to hold out or even going through with that, it's demanding to be traded. Holding out is simply additional leverage to indicate that you are serious about the trade demand.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/05/2018 08:30AM by dzrams.
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  About that "Rams will be forced to trade Donald" Myth

CeeZar997July 04, 2018 06:17AM

  I cant remember too well...but Sean Gilbert?

SunTzu_vs_Camus380July 04, 2018 07:39AM

  Re: I cant remember too well...but Sean Gilbert?

zn303July 04, 2018 08:05AM

  Re: I cant remember too well...but Sean Gilbert?

The_Zone209July 05, 2018 08:08AM

  Re: So basically...

dzrams264July 05, 2018 08:28AM

  Re: I cant remember too well...but Sean Gilbert?

CeeZar330July 04, 2018 09:35AM

  Re: About that "Rams will be forced to trade Donald" Myth

David Deacon267July 04, 2018 09:15AM

  Re: About that "Rams will be forced to trade Donald" Myth

zn424July 04, 2018 09:27AM

  Re: About that "Rams will be forced to trade Donald" Myth

David Deacon231July 05, 2018 11:10AM

  And ya think Donald has been underpaid for 4 years?

jemach190July 06, 2018 04:50AM

  Holdout LT Duane Brown Got Traded Just Last Year (nm)

1st Rounder221July 05, 2018 03:14AM

  Re: Holdout LT Duane Brown Got Traded Just Last Year (nm)

CeeZar239July 05, 2018 03:55AM

  Re: About that "Rams will be forced to trade Donald" Myth

CeeZar215July 05, 2018 07:27AM

  Re: About that "Rams will be forced to trade Donald" Myth

Rams43271July 05, 2018 08:22AM

  Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big ones

dzrams291July 05, 2018 08:26AM

  Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big one

CeeZar228July 05, 2018 08:35AM

  Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big one

dzrams213July 05, 2018 09:05AM

  Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big one

CeeZar210July 05, 2018 09:30AM

  Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big one

CeeZar238July 05, 2018 10:26AM

  Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big one

dzrams177July 05, 2018 10:38AM

  Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big one

CeeZar178July 05, 2018 10:47AM

  Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big one

dzrams348July 05, 2018 10:52AM

  Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big one

CeeZar191July 05, 2018 11:03AM

  Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big one

dzrams228July 05, 2018 11:28AM

  Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big one

CeeZar189July 06, 2018 04:17AM

  Re: Good research...you missed a couple of big one

David Deacon181July 05, 2018 11:14AM

  ask Le'Veon Bell how his contract talks and threats are going...

Rampage2K-304July 05, 2018 08:56AM

  Re: Too soon to say...

dzrams253July 05, 2018 09:16AM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

Rampage2K-280July 05, 2018 09:35AM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

dzrams248July 05, 2018 10:29AM

  FWIW

CeeZar235July 05, 2018 10:35AM

  Re: FWIW

dzrams249July 05, 2018 03:52PM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

zn280July 05, 2018 10:36AM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

spagsbacker191July 06, 2018 04:59AM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

zn243July 06, 2018 10:20AM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

Rams43173July 06, 2018 10:54AM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

dzrams199July 06, 2018 12:04PM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

zn238July 06, 2018 01:01PM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

Rampage2K-184July 06, 2018 01:34PM

  big big difference

zn242July 06, 2018 05:40PM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

Rams43198July 06, 2018 01:43PM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

dzrams193July 06, 2018 02:13PM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

Rampage2K-185July 06, 2018 02:22PM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

dzrams232July 06, 2018 02:34PM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

Rampage2K-193July 06, 2018 03:10PM

  qb money

zn178July 06, 2018 04:03PM

  Re: qb money

dzrams169July 06, 2018 05:33PM

  Re: qb money

zn178July 06, 2018 08:49PM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

CeeZar175July 06, 2018 02:26PM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

dzrams173July 06, 2018 02:44PM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

CeeZar174July 06, 2018 03:00PM

  Re: Too soon to say...missed the point

zn178July 06, 2018 04:12PM

  RBs are getting screwed

max345July 07, 2018 01:08AM

  Re: About that "Rams will be forced to trade Donald" Myth

Ken227July 10, 2018 01:44PM