Quotejemach 25. Body is fully developed. Athleticism is at peak. Personally, I don't think he gets any better. Your talking about getting a guy for one contract. To me, that's not a wise move for a 1st or 2nd round pick. That's not fact...it's feeling. I would take Hurst if he was there in round 4, which he won't be. His age is also why I likened him to Kupp. Kupp is 2 months oldby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotealyoshamucci I like Hayden Hurst and Goedert just as much... And one of the 4 may slide to the top of of the 3rd. Hurst looks like the Cooper Kupp of TE's to me. A pros pro, extremely hard worker, intelligent, leader, mature. Walter Football claims that sources say he's the only TE in this year's class that teams are really excited about. Projects him to go in rounds 1-2. My guessby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotelaram Quotedzrams I figured it was much ado about nothing. Basic due diligence requires that you check on that before pursuing him. So tell ME dz...when is a "plant....a "plant". Can WE pick and choose? lol No, we can't pick and choose. THIS was the more thought out post. Lol... I reconsidered on the other anyway after zn's input.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I figured it was much ado about nothing. Basic due diligence requires that you check on that before pursuing him.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteidaram That would be 2020 draft pick.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteFlipper336 QuoteBlue and Gold QuoteFlipper336 He’s stiff in coverage for even a 3-4 OLB. If Quinn wasn't a fit, due to coverage issues, then this may not be answer. Quinn was okay as a rusher, they couldn't use him in coverages...which is probably why he is gone. Hhmmm oh well Smooth and comfortable in coverage, man or zone. As a rusher (wildly underused in this role) he’s got pleby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteBlue and Gold Quotedzrams 2018 Projected DL vs. 2017 DL LDE - Suh > Brockers NT - Brockers >>> Westbrooks RDE - Donald = Donald Donald does not play DE in Wade's scheme he plays DT. And they don't play LDE and RDT, they play strong side and weak I was just copying from ESPN's depth chart for comparison purposes.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotelaram Quoteferragamo79 2nd in NFL....2020, $163 million, 1st in NFL they should be able to easily hand Donald extension as well as Gurley, Goff and Peters pay raises....... By their actions it appears they feel like they can only hold this nucleus together for a couple of years. Why else would you bring in a Sam Shields, Agib Talib and entertain signing Ndamakong Suh? Those moby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteguinnessram Without a contract. 27mill 2yr or 15mill 1yr. He gets to prove his worth and then hit FA anew in 2019 to land his last big payday. We get a rental Pro-Bowler and an improved run at a championship. Kevin P. Once he sign a big contract next year, we get another 2019 3rd round comp. pick. There's benefits to picking up stars to 1 year deals. NE has done it several timeby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotebigjimram21 Well wyche did say that they had a budget set aside for AD's contract and wouldn't sign someone who effected that . Now I would be interested in what laram thinks budget means. Maybe the Rams let it be known to the media that they have money set aside for AD so that he doesn't get upset when they sign Suh.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Good to know. Does this mean we should be drafting a RB to back up #30? And where in the draft?by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram Quinn played OLB last year - not sure why you mentioned him. As far as what dz was saying: last year the Rams started the season with a Brockers playing NT but eventually moved him out to DE. DZ is suggesting that Brockers move back to NT with Suh taking over at DE. (Donald's primary position was DT (3 tech) all last year and would remain so in Dz's scenario.) 2018 Projectby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 QuoteRFL My point was solely about how Donald is likely to see things. We know he feels underpaid. We know he doesn't want to wait. If the Rams sign a high profile DT before paying him, Donald is not going to like that. Whatever anyone else thinks about who is to blame for the long negotiation is irrelevant. A pissed off Donald will be harder to re-sign. Even if one believesby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach Can Suh...or Brockers generate say 15 sacks? Maybe Donald allows for that. Maybe I just don't see the LB(edge rusher) we need... I just think at some time, somebody is going to lose snaps with our rotation and I think that guy will be Brockers...maybe they replace Quinn's snaps and add... I guess it's a good problem... I edited by adding that Brockers would likely be the oby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Brockers played end pretty well last year right? He was pretty good at NT too but IMO was better at end. If Brockers was good at end, you don't think Suh can play there? If anything is wasted it's Brockers at the NTby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLos Angeles Lenny with the Rams signing Suh, do you think we have our ILB's on the team, if not does your draft hierarchy change from edge to ILB? my thoughts with Suh it feels like we have a D similar to the Bears 46 as far as talent, and being able to apply immediate pressure on the QB is almost unmeasurable, even though our strength would be our DT (counting AD as a DT) and corners.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
It's pretty simple. Where's the difficulty? Brockers at NT like where he started last year, AD and Suh as ends.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotelaram QuoteRams43 I can’t explain Ogletree’s contract, frankly. I have read that Wade was not brought in on that decision and he was less than thrilled with the result. Sorry, no link. I do give the FO credit for correcting the mistake, but that’s pretty faint praise, huh? You bring in a new defensive coordinator who you are handing the reins to for the entire defense, and you don'tby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. AD can have his extension this afternoon if he but says the word. It is AD holding up this extension, not the Rams. The facts we KNOW don't align with this. Snead just said a week ago that a timetable for negotiations with Donald's agent was just set. Wouldn't that indicate that there is no offer on the table for AD to agree toby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach So to calculate Donald's cap hit if he signs, you would have to back out $7 million to get the net "added" effect...if I said that correctly. Yeah, you've got it. So for example, if the Rams signed him to an extension that paid $20M per year and they wanted to have 2018 pay $20M, the new amount added to the cap this year is in effect $13M. The good thing about the capby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamsFanSince69 But we'd have to sign another ILB. If Suh signs we'd definitely need Barron's 7M. Barron was paid a roster bonus of $2M on 3/16/18. If they were gonna cut him they would have done it prior to that date. Now if they cut him, they would only save $5M. They don't need his money to sign Suh. First wave of free agency is over, Suh isn't getting nearly the amount of hby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach we will see. The best thing that happened is the first week of free agency went by and a lot of spenders used a lot of cap space. I assume Donald's $7-ish million is already cooked into the cap books. I wonder if SF is looking at Suh. I've heard reports that the market for him is only a few million more than Sheldon Richardson who just signed a 1 year deal for $8M. It doeby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I think you're blowing this Donald angle out of proportion. The only way Suh got his money is if he was nearing an extension and then all of a sudden the Rams no longer have money for him. But by all accounts there is no extension in sight. And even if there was, the Rams could structure Donald's contract where it affects the 2019 salary cap, not 2018s. Rumor is that the Rams were a fby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSuh-weet! Quotedzrams https://mobile.twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/status/975756072412594176 "All about chance to win, not money which is why he didn't talk money in New Orleans or Nashville." I'd say the Rams have the best chance of winning. ... I agree with you: Rams would seem to have the best bet of those four teams. I also have to believe that playing next to AD, thinkinby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
https://mobile.twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/status/975756072412594176 "All about chance to win, not money which is why he didn't talk money in New Orleans or Nashville." I'd say the Rams have the best chance of winning.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotelaram Quotedzrams QuoteRamUK I know some people believe you shouldn't pay QB money to someone who rarely touches the ball. All players making more than $16M are getting QB money. That is what Andy Dalton is being paid. If QB money is what the lowest starting QB is getting then many players are getting QB money. That term is now meaningless. Thanks guys! "....and I am anby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamUK I know some people believe you shouldn't pay QB money to someone who rarely touches the ball. All players making more than $16M are getting QB money. That is what Andy Dalton is being paid. If QB money is what the lowest starting QB is getting then many players are getting QB money. That term is now meaningless. Thanks guys!by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam You have to be wondering what Donald and his agent must be thinking. Does this tick them off knowing that Suh wouldn't be cheap? Does this make them wonder if the Rams are looking for alternatives to Donald and maybe aren't as committed to keeping him at all costs? I suspect that if the Rams want to send a message to Donald that there is life after AD for the Rams, they woby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotelaram Quotedzrams Quotejemach without signing Donald will create a war, especially if Donald is not extended. Then, I could actually see Donald holding out and missing games during the season. Signing Suh all but eats up the cap space required to sign Donald unless the Rams can get Donald signed for less than a $10 million cap hit in 2018. Spags is reacting to the very adament assertby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
No one ever said his point on gap wasn't valid. We all appreciate the knowledge. Those who opined that Suh could possibly be signed were doing so despite the supposed scheme misfit. Counter argument was given; it wasn't just "defer to the coaches" as you assert here. Look, I make plenty of judgments based on information too. I also admit when I'm wrong. I know B&G does too..by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com