June 12, 2021 06:15AM
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RockRam
Eliminate Covid?There's no goal of eliminating Covid. No virus is going to be eliminated because it constantly mutates (about the only one I've ever heard of that was eliminated is Small Pox). All we can do is protect ourselves to a degree. NONE of the vaccines for Flu, Pneumonia, Covid or whatever disease are 100% effective. Therefore by your rationale we'll have to wear PPS forever, and keep these draconian rules forever because the only way for you to feel safe enough is if Covid is eliminated. And, even if everyone were vaccinated, that wouldn't matter because the Vaccines aren't 100% effective and no one knows who won't be protected by it (or who the unfortunate rare ones will be who have some kind of deadly reaction to the vaccine).

This is no different from any other vaccination.

The point of vaccination is--and always has been, in every instance--curtail the virus by giving it nowhere to go.

Vaccines are not this personal thing where you as an individual get "fixed." It's also, more importantly, a community thing---as the number of vaccinated people in a population reaches a threshold number, the virus diminishes because it does not have enough targets to infect.

Same with polio, measles, mumps, diptheria, etc.

That's the entire point.

And again always has been the point with every single vaccine.

The only variation on that is a virus with too many strains that mutates too quickly, which is why we have to have new flu shots every year. But covid (so far) is not like the flu that way.

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  Gameplan: How Vaccine Hesitancy Among Players is Affecting NFL Teams…

Rams43435June 11, 2021 06:40AM

  hopefully the NFL will mirror MLB's progress here by August

LMU93124June 11, 2021 07:21AM

  Re: hopefully the NFL will mirror MLB's progress here by August

Ramsdude211June 11, 2021 07:36AM

  Sorry, but this makes no sense.

RockRam255June 11, 2021 11:27AM

  Re: Sorry, but this makes no sense.

moklerman131June 11, 2021 11:58AM

  Governor wants to extend State of Emergency

RockRam237June 11, 2021 12:07PM

  Re: Governor wants to extend State of Emergency

dzrams104June 11, 2021 01:55PM

  Tell that to a team who's starter has to miss games

promomasterj204June 11, 2021 12:03PM

  Ah yes. My way or the highway guy checks in.

RockRam114June 11, 2021 12:26PM

  600k dead in US and 4million worldwide - but ah yes, freedom

promomasterj128June 11, 2021 12:36PM

  Re: 600k dead in US and 4million worldwide - but ah yes, freedom

zn104June 11, 2021 06:35PM

  Re: The team has options...the players still get paid...

dzrams114June 11, 2021 02:23PM

  Didn't the Titans play without any QB's once last year?

NewMexicoRam116June 11, 2021 02:40PM

  Re: Didn't the Titans play without any QB's once last year?

Ohiorams114June 11, 2021 03:13PM

  It was the Broncos

promomasterj109June 11, 2021 03:48PM

  Re: Didn't the Titans play without any QB's once last year?

Rampage2K-100June 15, 2021 07:46PM

  Agree 100%

merlin141June 11, 2021 02:06PM

  Re: Exactly...

dzrams164June 11, 2021 02:36PM

  Re: Exactly...

Golden Ram244June 11, 2021 03:40PM

  Re: Exactly...

dzrams135June 11, 2021 03:43PM

  Re: Exactly...

Golden Ram130June 11, 2021 04:24PM

  Re: Exactly...

zn143June 11, 2021 06:50PM

  Re: Exactly...

Golden Ram113June 12, 2021 05:12AM

  Re: Exactly...

zn143June 12, 2021 05:37AM

  players are less likely to get sick--but they can get others sick

zn97June 11, 2021 06:29PM

  This entire subject matter is depressing

waterfield191June 11, 2021 08:01PM

  Guess you don't believe in rational choice theory NM

PHDram151June 11, 2021 08:15PM

  I will tell you what I believe in when it comes to this

zn109June 11, 2021 08:38PM

  Yup

PHDram258June 12, 2021 04:42AM

  Covid isn't going to be eliminated

RockRam131June 12, 2021 05:44AM

  Re: Covid isn't going to be eliminated

zn114June 12, 2021 06:15AM

  Re: Guess you don't believe in rational choice theory NM

waterfield181June 11, 2021 08:51PM

  Re: Guess you don't believe in rational choice theory NM

PHDram118June 12, 2021 06:51AM

  Re: Guess you don't believe in rational choice theory NM

waterfield94June 12, 2021 10:12AM

  Good question

PHDram107June 12, 2021 10:42AM

  Re: This entire subject matter is depressing

dzrams126June 11, 2021 10:22PM

  Re: This entire subject matter is depressing

zn227June 12, 2021 03:12AM

  Re: This entire subject matter is depressing

dzrams149June 12, 2021 08:03AM

  Re: This entire subject matter is depressing

zn133June 12, 2021 08:10AM

  Re: This entire subject matter is depressing

Golden Ram150June 12, 2021 08:24AM

  The medical community

PHDram160June 12, 2021 03:22PM

  It started well before then.

PHDram176June 12, 2021 07:27AM

  Re: It started well before then.

dzrams113June 12, 2021 07:59AM

  Re: It started well before then.

PHDram155June 12, 2021 11:04AM

  So how about the vaccinated people who die from a reaction?

RockRam153June 12, 2021 05:47AM

  do you have facts on that?

zn228June 12, 2021 08:22AM

  So are these people who are dying from covid..

sstrams318June 12, 2021 08:37AM

  they're not vaccinated

zn156June 12, 2021 08:49AM

  Sorry to hear that, zn...

sstrams133June 12, 2021 12:04PM

  Re: Sorry to hear that, zn...

zn131June 12, 2021 03:30PM

  Let's assume that number is correct.

PHDram129June 12, 2021 12:44PM

  Agree... its almost like people..

sstrams226June 12, 2021 02:05PM

  what risk?

zn104June 12, 2021 03:36PM

  Re: what risk?

Golden Ram148June 12, 2021 04:43PM

  Re: what risk?

zn151June 12, 2021 08:27PM

  Yes. It's already been vetted. Employers can make a job requirement

RockRam121June 12, 2021 05:30AM

  Nice post...

sstrams130June 12, 2021 05:51AM

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  After testing positive, the golfer Jon Rahm will return to play at the U.S. Open.

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