June 12, 2021 03:12AM
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dzrams
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Because it points out how many people are concerned about themselves and care nothing about others. It's the I'm on board so pull up the ladder that has gotten us into so much trouble. I.E. As long as I'm vaccinated and can't get sick I don't care about others. F--k em. Let them get vaccinated or not. I don't care. That's their freedom to decide.

To me, that sums up a whole lot of problems in this country far beyond COVID,

How and when did we get so callous about others.

I'll grant that there is something to be said about having a collective mindset versus only being concerned about oneself as an individual. Thinking about others is a noble ideal.

You ask though when did we get so callous about others? I'll tell you: it was at the very beginning when we were established as a capitalistic system. Capitalism values individualism. This is bigger than us as individuals.

Corporations don't value us; they value the almighty dollar. As a result, trust is low. The vast majority of the people I know who eschew the vaccine have low trust levels either with the government or corporations or both. Do we really believe the government is interested in protecting us or are they most concerned with power, control, and money? Do we really believe corporations have our best interest at heart or are they most concerned with making money?

For many people, the answer to these questions is no, we don't believe in the government or corporations. In this low trust context, people doing what's best for themselves and not caring about how others are affected is a natural result.

How about using reason?

If the virus is not eradicated (which can only be done by mass vaccinations and herd immunity) then the chances for profit and control diminish. If the vaccine is not real then the virus is not contained, which serves nobody's interests.

And btw you don't have to "trust" the government and big business on any of this. They are not the source of either the vaccine or information about it. The global scientific and medical community is.
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  hopefully the NFL will mirror MLB's progress here by August

LMU93123June 11, 2021 07:21AM

  Re: hopefully the NFL will mirror MLB's progress here by August

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  Sorry, but this makes no sense.

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  Re: Sorry, but this makes no sense.

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  Governor wants to extend State of Emergency

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  Re: Governor wants to extend State of Emergency

dzrams104June 11, 2021 01:55PM

  Tell that to a team who's starter has to miss games

promomasterj204June 11, 2021 12:03PM

  Ah yes. My way or the highway guy checks in.

RockRam114June 11, 2021 12:26PM

  600k dead in US and 4million worldwide - but ah yes, freedom

promomasterj128June 11, 2021 12:36PM

  Re: 600k dead in US and 4million worldwide - but ah yes, freedom

zn104June 11, 2021 06:35PM

  Re: The team has options...the players still get paid...

dzrams114June 11, 2021 02:23PM

  Didn't the Titans play without any QB's once last year?

NewMexicoRam116June 11, 2021 02:40PM

  Re: Didn't the Titans play without any QB's once last year?

Ohiorams114June 11, 2021 03:13PM

  It was the Broncos

promomasterj109June 11, 2021 03:48PM

  Re: Didn't the Titans play without any QB's once last year?

Rampage2K-100June 15, 2021 07:46PM

  Agree 100%

merlin141June 11, 2021 02:06PM

  Re: Exactly...

dzrams164June 11, 2021 02:36PM

  Re: Exactly...

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  Re: Exactly...

dzrams134June 11, 2021 03:43PM

  Re: Exactly...

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  Re: Exactly...

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  Re: Exactly...

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  Re: Exactly...

zn143June 12, 2021 05:37AM

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zn96June 11, 2021 06:29PM

  This entire subject matter is depressing

waterfield191June 11, 2021 08:01PM

  Guess you don't believe in rational choice theory NM

PHDram150June 11, 2021 08:15PM

  I will tell you what I believe in when it comes to this

zn109June 11, 2021 08:38PM

  Yup

PHDram258June 12, 2021 04:42AM

  Covid isn't going to be eliminated

RockRam131June 12, 2021 05:44AM

  Re: Covid isn't going to be eliminated

zn114June 12, 2021 06:15AM

  Re: Guess you don't believe in rational choice theory NM

waterfield181June 11, 2021 08:51PM

  Re: Guess you don't believe in rational choice theory NM

PHDram117June 12, 2021 06:51AM

  Re: Guess you don't believe in rational choice theory NM

waterfield94June 12, 2021 10:12AM

  Good question

PHDram107June 12, 2021 10:42AM

  Re: This entire subject matter is depressing

dzrams126June 11, 2021 10:22PM

  Re: This entire subject matter is depressing

zn226June 12, 2021 03:12AM

  Re: This entire subject matter is depressing

dzrams148June 12, 2021 08:03AM

  Re: This entire subject matter is depressing

zn133June 12, 2021 08:10AM

  Re: This entire subject matter is depressing

Golden Ram150June 12, 2021 08:24AM

  The medical community

PHDram159June 12, 2021 03:22PM

  It started well before then.

PHDram176June 12, 2021 07:27AM

  Re: It started well before then.

dzrams112June 12, 2021 07:59AM

  Re: It started well before then.

PHDram155June 12, 2021 11:04AM

  So how about the vaccinated people who die from a reaction?

RockRam153June 12, 2021 05:47AM

  do you have facts on that?

zn228June 12, 2021 08:22AM

  So are these people who are dying from covid..

sstrams318June 12, 2021 08:37AM

  they're not vaccinated

zn155June 12, 2021 08:49AM

  Sorry to hear that, zn...

sstrams132June 12, 2021 12:04PM

  Re: Sorry to hear that, zn...

zn131June 12, 2021 03:30PM

  Let's assume that number is correct.

PHDram129June 12, 2021 12:44PM

  Agree... its almost like people..

sstrams226June 12, 2021 02:05PM

  what risk?

zn103June 12, 2021 03:36PM

  Re: what risk?

Golden Ram147June 12, 2021 04:43PM

  Re: what risk?

zn151June 12, 2021 08:27PM

  Yes. It's already been vetted. Employers can make a job requirement

RockRam121June 12, 2021 05:30AM

  Nice post...

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