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Re: But OP doesn't want it

June 03, 2021 01:19AM
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Golden Ram
For clarification, I am not anti-vax. I just don't expect people to get vaccinated if they are not comfortable with the possible side effects. I am going to the Rams open practice and will happily sit in the unvaccinated section enjoying watching the Rams take the practice field.

The normal, regular relatively more common side effects are mild (they include headaches, mild flu like symptoms, and so on). And they occur a much smaller percentage of the time than some people seem to be assuming. My wife had the regular side effects--lasted 2 days and was no big deal. I had no side effects whatsoever.

What murks this conversation up is that there are some very, very rare harsher effects, and some people are making the mistake of grouping them with the regular kinds of common side effects. The genuinely dangerous effects are so rare that you are more likely to be hit by another car driving to a vaccination site.

All of this is very well documented on a global level. There have been very rare cases of allergic reactions, or blood clots and maybe heart problems. Do not confuse those things with the common side effects.

Just one of hundreds of sources on this. From Science News:

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. [www.sciencenews.org]

As of May 28, worldwide, more than 1.8 billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given, according to Johns Hopkins University. No vaccines are completely risk-free, says Yvonne Maldonado, an infectious diseases epidemiologist at Stanford University School of Medicine. But the side effects known to be caused by the vaccines are usually short-lived and clear up on their own or are treatable or reversible, she says.

Out of every million doses given of the mRNA vaccines, overall about 2.5 to 11.1 severe allergic reactions to an ingredient called polyethylene glycol will happen. That’s why people are typically monitored for at least 15 minutes after the shot. The risk is obviously highest for people who have known allergies to polyethylene glycol and they should probably avoid taking the mRNA vaccines. If the jabs are broken down into smaller doses, people with the rare allergies might still be able to get the shots safely, researchers reported in April in the Annals of Internal Medicine.

About 13 cases of rare blood clots are predicted to develop in women 49 and younger for every one million doses of Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine. Only two such clots for every million doses are calculated to happen in women 50 and older or in men 18- to 49-years old.

13 of every million is 0.0013%.

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  Can't go to Rams practice

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  A private business has the right to dictate those terms

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  yup...No Shirts, No Shoes....

SunTzu_vs_Camus237June 03, 2021 07:10AM

  Just walk into CVS and get a shot

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  But OP doesn't want it

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  It's not about whether or not they get vaxxed to me.

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Ekern55259June 02, 2021 05:40PM

  dubious data

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  in other words

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  It's self report data

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  So what self report data is verified?

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PHDram218June 03, 2021 08:47AM

  Really?

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  It's not just the pharm industry

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  I just don't understand your math...

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  That's not accurate

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  You may be safe but it's killed hundreds of thousands

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PHDram277June 02, 2021 07:35PM

  You're allowed to disclose your own HIPAA health info.

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  Yeah we're really fighting against science in today's society

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  Re: People with "pre-existing" conditions don't have a choice.

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  I don't get the response

zn203June 03, 2021 04:49PM

  Each person and business has the right to decide

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  If you're vaccinated

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  Here's the mindset

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  Thank you....

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  old parents or young children

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