This thread reminds me of a argument me and three of my buddies had many years ago. After a long night of drinking into the wee hours of the morning an argument broke out about who would win in a fight between, Chuck Norris, John Claude van Damme and Steven Seagal. The argument started to reach a fever pitch with people starting to shout and tempers flaring when my one buddy who had yet to speak a word on the matter, suddenly spoke up and said "John Wayne would have kicked all their a$$es". After a few seconds of stunned silence everyone readily agreed and another round was ordered.