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December 01, 2020 02:05PM
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You can tell by the way McVay has never even considered pulling Jared that he has zero confidence in the backup position. If he did have a strong backup there's a good chance that would have happened in two games this season, both Miami and the second SF game.

Coachspeak is strong with McVay. You gotta look at the decision making to glean what he really thinks IMO.

It would all be so much easier if McV had stronger in-game instincts and could sense when the offense is struggling and maybe shift the attack to get it back on its feet. For example--instead of running empty sets repeatedly in Miami when it was visible that the qb was struggling AND that the run was there to be had against that defense at any time. I like adjusting better than sticking to your struggling attack and then complaining afterward about "execution."

Shanahan did that for SF. He has a back-up qb going against the toughest 2nd half defense in the league, but then adjusts to the adjustments enough to get a couple of FGs and win.

Though I am not sounding hyperbolic or hysterical alarms. I think McV DOES have issues with that and does not have a strong feel for in-game situations and that this is part of the problem in the 3 bad losses where Goff struggled. BUT why exaggerate that? They are 7-4, contending for the division, and the week before came back from the tie to win in Tampa.

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I think a flaw has been exposed in McVay's scheme in the way he calls plays. My guess is, it can't be corrected until after the season when he has time to make major changes and he can get it implemented with the players.

Anyway, I heard him talking about what you advocate. He said that he can already see when the offense is struggling and he has multiple built-in plays calls depending on what the defense is doing. Against Miami, he made it sound like his system can't just go to a bunch of runs because from what they were showing, Goff has the option to check into the best counter. It doesn't sound like he has an override where they can just run.

You can't check into a run out of empty sets.

And while I am sympatico with where you are going there, I am not talking, really, about anything schematic.

This is instincts and a feel for the game situation. Nothing that years of off-season scheming would fix. It's a sense of the moment, in-game. You cannot plan for everything. Sometimes you just have to have a feel for the situation.

Shanahan has that as he demonstrated Sunday. McVay can often be a little ham-handed when it comes to that kind of thing.

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You and I both thought they should have run more against Miami. What if schematically, McVay felt that the empty sets and not running was the answer to what Miami was doing?

Again I am talking about game situations though. Whatever he thought about the empty sets in advance--it wasn't working. Reminds me of the take on the Rams superbowl loss, where it was said that the Patz were surprised McV didn't have a Plan B.

I have no problems with McVay as a chalkboard schemer. Where I sometimes have my doubts, it's his feel for the situation. Sometimes the chalkboard is not your friend. Sometimes you have to go, oh wait let's change this up...it looked good on the chalk board but right now it ain't workin.

Even Martz knew how to settle games down to get Bulger's feet under him when that was needed, and solidifying things before taking off again.

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And that's what I'm saying. He may not have the ability in his system to change things up mid-game. It sounds, from his description, even if he said to himself "these empty sets aren't working," he doesn't have an override button that can move them away from that since his chalk board scheming has already determined that's the best answer for what Mia was doing.
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  Complete and total BS

merlin359December 01, 2020 10:24AM

  I don't think so....

JamesJM302December 01, 2020 10:37AM

  Re: I don't think so....

moklerman180December 01, 2020 11:56AM

  yup, you said that well. (nm)

JamesJM149December 01, 2020 12:17PM

  Re: Sitting the QB isn't final

merlin210December 01, 2020 10:30PM

  No, that's not true...

JamesJM131December 01, 2020 10:42PM

  Goff is mentally tough IMO

merlin147December 01, 2020 11:01PM

  Pretty much agree with all that...HEll...

JamesJM124December 01, 2020 11:08PM

  yes thats what I think too nm

Speed_Kills134December 01, 2020 12:12PM

  Re: Complete and total BS

zn226December 01, 2020 12:25PM

  So it's McVay and not Goff's problem

promomasterj146December 01, 2020 01:30PM

  you think someone said that?

zn257December 01, 2020 01:38PM

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dzrams307December 01, 2020 01:34PM

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zn145December 01, 2020 01:42PM

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zn162December 01, 2020 01:57PM

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dzrams135December 01, 2020 02:05PM

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zn182December 01, 2020 02:24PM

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dzrams129December 01, 2020 03:21PM

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zn233December 01, 2020 03:24PM

  Is that something you can learn, tho?

sstrams211December 01, 2020 03:30PM

  to be honest?

zn140December 01, 2020 03:41PM

  Shannahan has such great feel - like in the Atlanta Superbowl

promomasterj145December 01, 2020 03:14PM

  he does against the Rams

zn127December 01, 2020 03:22PM

  Mcvay was not totally wrong

PHDram169December 01, 2020 05:11PM

  yup, I feel the same way, zn....

SunTzu_vs_Camus121December 02, 2020 02:34PM

  That article is from August...N/M

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