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Re: Goff is s dying breed

November 02, 2020 01:21PM
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Speed_Kills
the pure pocket passer is going away

look at all the dynamic QBs and you ones coming out

Lawrence
Ehlinger
Fields

Current young stars in Dak, Maholmes, Watson, Herbert, Burrows

You need an athletic QB these days that can make things happen IMO

I think the other thing working against Goff is he's not a great pocket passer. I think after 5 years if his ceiling was Ryan then he's just not there. He simply is not great or very good. He's just ok <shrug>

One thing I found odd today? Did you guys actually hear Velma saying during the game that Goff is not good from the pocket and that's not where he wants to be? I was thinking huh?
I can see it. I think the fact that he doesn't run much has been misconstrued as him being a pocket passer. But, he doesn't often seem comfortable from "the pocket". Of course, what one considers a pocket is important to this conversation. I think of a drop back, pocket passer as a QB that manuevers within the pocket, creates time, senses pressure, makes reads at the line pre and post snap, goes through progressions, etc.

Which all may be antiquated...or at least currently phased out. Brady and Brees would seem to fit the definition though and they're both still successful. But as much as I've questioned Brady as the GOAT, his year in TB just goes to show how much a QB is involved in the protection aspects of the passing game.

In 7 games, Brady has been sacked 8 times in 268 pass attempts for a 2.9% sack rate. Last year, in 7 games and basically the same amount of attempts, Winston was sacked 28 times in 263 attempts (10.6%). Three to four times the sack rate is massive and it seems that in less than one year, the problem was solved by having a QB who was better at the mental things..
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  Rams need a mobile athletic QB to compete

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  Re: Rams need a mobile athletic QB to compete

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  Re: Rams need a mobile athletic QB to compete

moklerman215November 01, 2020 05:52PM

  Re: Rams need a mobile athletic QB to compete

kw13185November 01, 2020 06:26PM

  Re: Rams need a mobile athletic QB to compete

moklerman404November 01, 2020 06:33PM

  Re: Rams need a mobile athletic QB to compete

AlbaNY_Ram184November 02, 2020 02:04PM

  Re: Rams need a mobile athletic QB to compete

moklerman229November 02, 2020 02:07PM

  I just couldn’t see NE

Speed_Kills171November 02, 2020 02:12PM

  ok it just sounds silly

Speed_Kills169November 02, 2020 02:10PM

  Re: ok it just sounds silly

AlbaNY_Ram132November 03, 2020 04:36AM

  Re: correction

AlbaNY_Ram172November 03, 2020 04:32AM

  great stuff thx for clarification! nm

Speed_Kills110November 03, 2020 07:21AM

  Re: Rams need a mobile athletic QB to compete

NorCalRamFan135November 04, 2020 10:06AM

  Are You Making This Up?

Classicalwit338November 05, 2020 02:14AM

  Re: Are You Making This Up?

moklerman271November 05, 2020 06:32AM

  uh no nm lol

Speed_Kills183November 02, 2020 01:07PM

  Re: Goff is s dying breed

Speed_Kills217November 01, 2020 06:40PM

  Re: Goff is s dying breed

moklerman420November 02, 2020 01:21PM

  How about Daniel Jones or Mitch Trubisky

promomasterj193November 03, 2020 10:30AM

  Re: I like Deshaun Watson

BigGame81182November 03, 2020 10:33AM

  oh goodness yes

Speed_Kills151November 03, 2020 02:11PM

  Re: I like Deshaun Watson

BerendsenRam131November 04, 2020 08:20PM

  idk man

Speed_Kills185November 03, 2020 02:10PM

  Re: idk man

max131November 03, 2020 02:22PM

  Well, nothing is going to happen...

JamesJM137November 03, 2020 02:42PM

  Re: yeah but it’s because

Speed_Kills166November 03, 2020 04:28PM

  Re: yeah but it’s because

max150November 04, 2020 03:56AM

  Re: yeah but it’s because

Speed_Kills125November 04, 2020 07:34AM

  Re: yeah but it’s because

max128November 04, 2020 07:57AM

  Re: yeah but it’s because

Speed_Kills173November 04, 2020 10:38AM

  It takes more than mobility to win year in and year out

promomasterj124November 04, 2020 07:12AM

  oh yes of course all of that is true

Speed_Kills128November 04, 2020 07:37AM

  Which ones are going to be good? Who knows?

promomasterj123November 04, 2020 08:27AM

  Re: Which ones are going to be good? Who knows?

moklerman133November 04, 2020 10:15AM

  the odds of them being no good

Speed_Kills112November 04, 2020 10:50AM

  2 of the top QB's of the last few years have been pocket passers

promomasterj138November 04, 2020 01:54PM

  Re: Aaron Rodgers is Pat Maholmes

Speed_Kills128November 04, 2020 04:59PM

  Mahommes won the SB this year - who won the SB the 5 years before that?

promomasterj133November 05, 2020 09:13AM

  Re: Mahommes won the SB this year - who won the SB the 5 years before that?

Speed_Kills159November 05, 2020 10:03AM

  Re: Mahommes won the SB this year - who won the SB the 5 years before that?

moklerman136November 05, 2020 10:59AM

  And with all those names only 2 have been to the Super Bowl

promomasterj116November 05, 2020 12:01PM

  Re: so I took the time to research

Speed_Kills151November 05, 2020 03:50PM

  I agree they're drafting them, question is how successful has it been?

promomasterj140November 06, 2020 10:18AM