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Re: Too much fantasy. Yes, the season is going to happen

April 13, 2020 08:36AM
The idea that COVID-19 deaths are being exaggerated is a fringe theory at best. Virtually all mainstream opinions say exactly the opposite: that COVID-19 deaths are probably underestimated. There are literally dozens of sources I could have quoted. I'll give you these 2 and leave it at that.

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From the CDC: "Deaths due to COVID-19 may be misclassified as pneumonia or influenza deaths in the absence of positive test results ... [www.cdc.gov] (My note: Unless a patient actually has a positive test then COVID-19 can't be listed as a cause of death, even if the attending physician thinks the patient had COVID-19. Since tests are (or at least were) in short supply many patients were simply treated as COVID-19 patients based on their symptoms. If those patients subsequently caught the flu or pneumonia then the flu or pneumonia was listed as the cause of death.)
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From Marc Lipsitch, a professor of epidemiology at Harvard University: “There are going to be some people who die of something else, happen to have COVID and get tested, and get counted as COVID deaths but would die anyway. It would be wrong to say that number is zero. However given current testing shortages and protocols, the number of such cases will be small.”

“A greater issue is errors in the other direction — deaths caused by COVID that are not counted as such,” he said. [www.factcheck.org]
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Sorry - gotta add a third. [www.washingtonpost.com]

The fast-spreading novel coronavirus is almost certainly killing Americans who are not included in the nation’s growing death toll, according to public health experts and government officials involved in the tally.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention counts only deaths in which the presence of the coronavirus is confirmed in a laboratory test. “We know that it is an underestimation,” agency spokeswoman Kristen Nordlund said.

A widespread lack of access to testing in the early weeks of the U.S. outbreak means people with respiratory illnesses died without being counted, epidemiologists say. Even now, some people who die at home or in overburdened nursing homes are not being tested, according to funeral directors, medical examiners and nursing home representatives.



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  So if this season never happens

Great Bordeni815April 12, 2020 11:56AM

  Excellent point, thinking the same thing.

stlramz246April 12, 2020 12:14PM

  Re: Imagine the draft next year if that happens...

merlin251April 12, 2020 12:16PM

  The draft is still happening

Ram_Ruler153April 13, 2020 04:40AM

  He meant next year's draft, not this year's draft

Ramadune173April 13, 2020 07:49AM

  Re: huh, maybe

spagsbacker213April 12, 2020 12:24PM

  Re: So if this season never happens

Rampage2K-211April 12, 2020 12:42PM

  Too much fantasy. Yes, the season is going to happen

RockRam240April 12, 2020 12:43PM

  Re: Too much fantasy. Yes, the season is going to happen

Classicalwit180April 12, 2020 06:02PM

  Re: Too much fantasy. Yes, the season is going to happen

waterfield165April 12, 2020 08:59PM

  Re: Too much fantasy. Yes, the season is going to happen

Rams43199April 13, 2020 07:41AM

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AlbaNY_Ram131April 13, 2020 08:36AM

  Re: So if this season never happens

CarolinaRam313April 12, 2020 01:04PM

  There will be a 2020 NFL season...

Rams43239April 12, 2020 04:19PM

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Classicalwit219April 12, 2020 06:04PM

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Classicalwit167April 12, 2020 08:20PM

  I don't think that's true...

JamesJM192April 12, 2020 09:55PM

  No College Football & No Fans in Stadiums (NFL)

den-the-coach184April 13, 2020 03:06AM

  Disagree

waterfield160April 13, 2020 06:56AM

  let's hope

LMU93147April 13, 2020 08:03AM