January 19, 2020 01:46AM
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spagsbacker
If you read my initial post, I NEVER stated Kupp, JJ and Higgle were not studs. I was only disputing the idea that the Rams were superior to other teams at finding mid rd gems. I even wrote the following, "So in the past 5 years these mid rd gems are Kupp, Higbee, JJ." Im not saying Kupp is not a stud. He is very good, but all of the other teams draft comparable players. See Tye Hill, Alvin Kamara, Gallup, Dak, Hunt, Hunter, DK, Kittle, and on and on.....I would not say JJ and Higbee are studs though. They are ok to good players. But again, all teams find guys like that in mid rounds. Rams are nothing special at finding mid rd gems like you claim. You all demanded examples and I listed a bunch that back up my case but you still claim I'm biased? Don't ask me to prove if you're gonna ignore the data.

No you did not prove that the Rams hit percentage in mid rounds is the same as other teams. To do that you would need a percentage standard that the Rams either met or failed to meet. You didn't provide "data"--for that you need PERCENTAGES. Otherwise all you showed that OTHER teams have good mid-round picks too, which no one disagrees with.

And btw the national perception of JJ is that he is a find and a stud. Absolutely. Same with HIgbee, as of this year, since he set Rams records for TE yards and receptions.

So. Saying other teams find guys too is not the same as proving a standard was not met. For that you need percentages. And sites that do this for a living regularly list the Rams as top 10 in drafting, as Albany showed.

You certainly can have the opinion that in spite of the stuff Albany posted the Rams are not even average in mid-round drafting. But you're claiming it as a fact, and that's a different story. For it to pass muster as a fact claim, you would have to prove they do not meet a standard. Again--percentages.

If you just hold the opinion, as opposed to claiming it as a fact, then, we can all agree to disagree, no problem.


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  The notion the Rams have no draft picks...

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  draft capital

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  They also have Jalen Ramsey who is a HR pick @ 20

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  Re: They also have Jalen Ramsey who is a HR pick @ 20

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  Re: They also have Jalen Ramsey who is a HR pick @ 20

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  Re: They also have Jalen Ramsey who is a HR pick @ 20

stlramz343January 18, 2020 05:33PM

  plus

zn341January 17, 2020 02:06AM

  Re: I disagree. "Rams find mid rd gems" is a fallacy

spagsbacker397January 17, 2020 03:01AM

  Re: I disagree. "Rams find mid rd gems" is a fallacy

AlbaNY_Ram285January 17, 2020 03:44AM

  Re:the Rams are actually quite good in the draft

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  Re: Re:the Rams are actually quite good in the draft

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  good info

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  Re: Re:the Rams are actually quite good in the draft

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  Re: Good stuff...nm

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  Re: I disagree. "Rams find mid rd gems" is a fallacy

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  Re: I disagree. "Rams find mid rd gems" is a fallacy

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  Re:

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  Re: I prove my point as requested....

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  Forget it man.

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  Re: those guys are ok....

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  Re: Care to provide facts?

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  Re: The notion the Rams have no draft picks...

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  draft picks are overrated - look at improvement on losing picks for Goff

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