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Ambiguous and mercurial

November 28, 2019 11:17AM
No one has argued that the o-line has been constantly great for the past 19 games. They have had issues at times. But they haven't been the disaster that you're basing your opinion of Goff on. They have performed like a typical NFL o-line. Most teams have lines that are dealing with injuries and aren't always cohesive.

You offer things like "massively" injured among other flowery descriptions but you aren't actually defining anything. Leaping to the conclusion that virtually no one could have done better than Goff has done under similar circumstances. Of course, we'll never get to the point where similar circumstances are accepted because the Rams have supposedly experienced the worst conditions an o-line has ever endured and it's just too much to expect them to do anything but fail.

So, why haven't the 49ers collapsed with their o-line issues? They have not only had o-line injuries and issues, they've been without a decent WR corps, lost their star TE to injury, had a revolving door at RB, their FA WR pickup has been in and out of the lineup...but somehow, Garropalo hasn't dropped to the very bottom of the league in efficiency.

No one is arguing against the idea that a QB would struggle if their o-line did indeed have an off game or period of time where they couldn't function due to injuries and a lack of continuity. But as you have asked for examples of QB's that could perform under the ambiguous and mercurial defined o-line situation, what about the opposite? What other o-lines have had 19+ straight games of such supposed issues?

Especially ones that were led by a successful scheme and coaching.

Someone suggested Occam's razor. That it didn't make sense that Goff could have just forgotten how to play QB. But it's actually the other way around. Does it make sense that the coaches forgot how to coach, the o-line forgot how to play, the receivers forgot how to catch, the RB forgot how to run and the TE's forgot how to TE?

It seems much more plausible to me that Goff is a QB that can excel under a unique set of circumstances and that defenses figured out a way to marginalize those advantages so that when the pressure and responsibility of normal QB life in the NFL was thrust on Goff, he has regressed to what he was before. McVay conjured up some great tricks to get Goff going, Goff hasn't been able to show that he is a better than average starter when conditions aren't unique and ideal.
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  I 100% do not want Bortles. I want Goff to do well

JimYoungblood53613November 26, 2019 09:39PM

  Re: I 100% do not want Bortles. I want Goff to do well

Classicalwit219November 27, 2019 04:49AM

  Fair enough

JimYoungblood53199November 27, 2019 04:51AM

  Re: Fair enough

Rampage2K-200November 27, 2019 07:37AM

  Re: Fair enough

JimYoungblood53192November 27, 2019 08:58AM

  Re: Fair enough

no name212November 29, 2019 02:30PM

  Re: I 100% do not want Bortles. I want Goff to do well

dzrams228November 27, 2019 05:49AM

  Re: I 100% do not want Bortles. I want Goff to do well

zn289November 27, 2019 05:53AM

  Re: I 100% do not want Bortles. I want Goff to do well

dzrams207November 27, 2019 06:01AM

  Re: I 100% do not want Bortles. I want Goff to do well

zn239November 27, 2019 06:07AM

  Re: I 100% do not want Bortles. I want Goff to do well

dzrams195November 27, 2019 06:24AM

  Re: I 100% do not want Bortles. I want Goff to do well

zn189November 27, 2019 06:56AM

  OFF TOPIC AND OVERDUE COMPLEMENT

k3229November 29, 2019 11:04AM

  Re: OFF TOPIC AND OVERDUE COMPLEMENT

zn163November 29, 2019 11:08AM

  Then it's going to be a problem

JimYoungblood53187November 27, 2019 06:04AM

  That is what a meant when I said excuses

JimYoungblood53191November 27, 2019 06:12AM

  Re: That is what a meant when I said excuses

dzrams267November 27, 2019 06:33AM

  Re: That is what a meant when I said excuses

Rams43534November 27, 2019 06:54AM

  Re: That is what a meant when I said excuses

zn267November 27, 2019 07:00AM

  I'm not sure about Wilson or Brady

waterfield174November 27, 2019 10:23AM

  Re: I'm not sure about Wilson or Brady

zn194November 27, 2019 12:21PM

  They aren't the only exceptions...

JamesJM173November 27, 2019 12:25PM

  Re: They aren't the only exceptions...

zn165November 27, 2019 12:34PM

  Yes, I can name more exceptions, and so can you...

JamesJM172November 27, 2019 12:39PM

  Re: Yes, I can name more exceptions, and so can you...

zn179November 27, 2019 01:16PM

  Ok, accepted.. who disagrees with that?

JamesJM321November 27, 2019 01:19PM

  Re: Ok, accepted.. who disagrees with that?

zn194November 27, 2019 02:02PM

  Re: I'm not sure about Wilson or Brady

waterfield184November 27, 2019 01:15PM

  That's absolutely true...

JamesJM188November 27, 2019 01:18PM

  Re: I'm not sure about Wilson or Brady

zn176November 27, 2019 01:18PM

  Ambiguous and mercurial

moklerman192November 28, 2019 11:17AM

  Then we agree, essentially----nm

JimYoungblood53173November 27, 2019 07:06AM

  Re: I 100% do not want Bortles. I want Goff to do well

kw13266November 29, 2019 05:06PM