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Re: I saw this coming and talked about this months ago

May 27, 2019 12:22PM
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Los Angeles Lenny
He is a great teammate, but not an elite talent, he is Chris Long of QB, now if continues to improve and show progress he will eventually get that big contract but I for one would not sign him to a big contract

Big contracts for young qbs are a dime a dozen, ordinary thing. It's not about being "elite."

That's because the alternative is to start over at qb, and on that, you deal with scarcity and the fact that your next choice might not be as good. And not signing your qb to a 2nd contract appears to be a thing that only happens to proven non-starters who have essentially turned out to be, at best, back-ups.

Here are the 1st round qbs since the new CBA (up to 2014) who have signed HIGH-END 2nd contracts and stayed with their original drafting teams:

* Newton, Luck

Here are the ones who didn't. They either signed low-end contracts (low for that year's market, which indicates there were doubts about them), or got injured, or just did not pan out.

* Tannenhill, Bortles, Griffen, Bridgewater, Ponder, Gabbert, Locker, Weedon, Manual, Manziel.

So regardless what WE PERSONALLY might do, what the NFL market says when you do not sign your qb to a 2nd contract, is that for any number of possible reasons, they belong on that 2nd list.

Here are other QBs who signed TOP 2nd contracts since 2012, but were not taken in the first round:

* Wilson, Cousins, Carr, Dalton, Garoppolo

Combining all the 2nd contract guys, regardless of round drafted:

* Newton, Luck, Wilson, Cousins, Carr, Dalton, Garoppolo

Compare it again to the 2nd list from above:

* Tannenhill, Bortles, Griffen, Bridgewater, Ponder, Gabbert, Locker, Weedon, Manual, Manziel.

So again regardless of what we personally would do, if an NFL team doesn't sign Goff they're saying he does not belong on this list at all: Newton, Luck, Wilson, Cousins, Carr, Dalton, Garoppolo

And that he's no better than players on this list (a couple of whom are there because of injury): Tannenhill, Bortles, Griffen, Bridgewater, Ponder, Gabbert, Locker, Weedon, Manual, Manziel

To me? It's obvious he belongs on the 1st list. He's better than anyone on the 2nd list...he just does not belong on that 2nd list. Guys like Goff get signed.

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 05/27/2019 12:30PM by zn.
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  The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog (nm)

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zn186May 25, 2019 11:39AM

  Why focus on 1 game?

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  Re: The media just gets it wrong over and over and over with QBs

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  It's not fair. The WHOLE TEAM had faults last season.

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BeachBoy216May 25, 2019 01:52PM

  I saw this coming and talked about this months ago

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zn307May 27, 2019 12:22PM

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bigjimram21170May 28, 2019 04:44PM

  excellent summary

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