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Re: being realistic

April 08, 2019 05:47AM
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165/286(57.7%) 1,853yds(6.48ypa) 7TD(2.4%/8INT(2.8%) 73.7 passer rating

It's funny you would call the SF game "stat-padding." Sounds like a bias. The opposite would be to dismiss the Chicago game.

Objectively, THIS is Kyle Boller. From 2009, his year with the Rams.

98/176 (55.68%) 5.11 YPA, 3 TD, 6 INT, 61.2 qb rating---including no games higher than 75.2.

The difference? Realistically and objectively, no bias, this is a crucial difference:

In 2009, Boller was consistently bad. His qb rating is a true average. His highest games are 75.2, 70.5, and 67.5. His lows were 39.6 and 44.9.

Post-bye in 2018, Goff was up and down. In terms of qb rating, his highs were 121.6, 118.1, and 83.0--the "83" coming in an overtime win in an on-the-road NFC championship game. The lows were 19.1, 57.9, and 68.6.

So watch who you call "Kyle Boller." cool smiley

Goff was up and down since the bye and since the bye the team went 5-3.

Discussing qbs, nuance IMO is always better than black-n-white declarations. The details in this case do not lend themselves to the conclusion that Goff is on a downward trend. Rather the evidence shows 2 things. One is, he became much more inconsistent (like or not that's not identical to a "downward trend." ) Second is, it was not him alone--all his poorest efforts in that batch of inconsistent games coincided with the OL having problems too.


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Well, the Rams playing their starters against the 49ers backups was the reality. Sherman had to leave the game and they were already depleted in the secondary. And, they had nothing to play for and had the 2nd worst record in the league. The only reason Goff was playing was because he'd been struggling so much and they were trying to get him back on track.

As far as the details of this case, we're talking about a half a season's worth of games that Goff's numbers were in the toilet. You're right that there were moments during those 8 games where he made some plays but I think the cumulative total of 8 games is a fair enough look at how he was trending. In terms of games and pass attempts and considering it is his most recent body of work. Something was out of whack.

He had about 26 games of elite level of play and then 8 games of what would have been the 32nd ranked passer rating. Completed less than 58% of his passes, threw more interceptions than touchdowns, his yards per attempt fell below 6.5...those are alarming numbers and downward swings in production as far as I'm concerned. It wasn't like he was facing the 2000 Ravens every week either. One could presume that it was all a matter of circumstance but is that really likely? When you look at a half a season of relative ineptitude and then look at how he performed in the Super Bowl I think it's concerning.

Seems a little late for a sophomore slump but I suppose it's possible considering his unusual path in the NFL so far. But, he hasn't been right for a half a season IMO and it'll be something to keep an eye on next year.
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  Goff #6 in QB YPA over Last 2 Seasons

RamBill523April 04, 2019 03:47PM

  he's top 5-10 virtually across the board

LMU93186April 05, 2019 02:55AM

  I'm very tough on Goff

den-the-coach315April 05, 2019 03:44AM

  Re: I'm very tough on Goff

David Deacon184April 05, 2019 04:26AM

  Re: One thing I've been saying re: Goff

merlin357April 05, 2019 08:50AM

  I think that;s true

zn174April 05, 2019 10:04AM

  Re: I think that;s true

oldschoolramfan138April 05, 2019 10:51AM

  Re: really out of their minds?

Speed_Kills157April 05, 2019 10:59AM

  Re: I think so, yes

merlin134April 06, 2019 10:36PM

  And still improving....NM

PHDram131April 05, 2019 03:47AM

  Re: year 3 in McVay's system

Speed_Kills173April 05, 2019 05:57AM

  How many top 10 defenses did the Rams play in 2018?

zn210April 05, 2019 06:56AM

  Re: How many top 10 defenses did the Rams play in 2018?

LMU93170April 05, 2019 08:30AM

  Re: well here's the thing for me

Speed_Kills155April 05, 2019 10:17AM

  thats True for almost every QB

Hazlet Hacksaw128April 07, 2019 05:14AM

  Re: no not really

Speed_Kills118April 07, 2019 02:02PM

  Re: no not really

Rams43112April 07, 2019 07:07PM

  Re: no not really

Speed_Kills123April 07, 2019 07:33PM

  Re: no not really

Rams43133April 07, 2019 07:43PM

  Re: no not really

RamsFanSinceLA59April 11, 2019 07:23AM

  Numbers are on a downward trend...

moklerman132April 07, 2019 11:09PM

  being realistic

zn543April 08, 2019 04:02AM

  Re: being realistic

moklerman154April 08, 2019 05:47AM

  Re: being realistic

zn88April 08, 2019 03:56PM

  This QB had his own issues...

jemach71April 08, 2019 03:59PM

  disagree

zn80April 08, 2019 04:08PM

  Re: disagree

PHDram475April 08, 2019 05:05PM

  +1

zn88April 08, 2019 05:13PM

  Re: being realistic

moklerman85April 08, 2019 09:36PM

  Barely functional?

PHDram71April 09, 2019 03:47AM

  Re: Barely functional?

moklerman73April 09, 2019 04:09AM

  Re: Barely functional?

PHDram87April 09, 2019 06:11AM

  Re: Barely functional?

moklerman103April 09, 2019 08:29AM

  Re: Barely functional?

PHDram99April 09, 2019 09:24AM

  Re: Barely functional?

moklerman93April 09, 2019 10:24AM

  Re: Barely functional?

PHDram110April 09, 2019 05:04PM

  Re: Barely functional?

moklerman66April 09, 2019 10:57PM

  Re: Barely functional?

PHDram67April 10, 2019 03:44AM

  To be fair please provide evidence for other top 10 QBs

BumRap75April 09, 2019 08:55PM

  Re: To be fair?

Speed_Kills76April 10, 2019 08:03AM

  Hi Buddy! My reaction to the list.

Saguaro121April 10, 2019 02:13PM

  Re: Hey dude!

Speed_Kills123April 10, 2019 03:30PM

  Re: Hey dude

zn64April 10, 2019 03:37PM

  It's funny

PHDram61April 10, 2019 04:06PM

  Re: Didn’t the Colts have the first pick?

Speed_Kills61April 10, 2019 04:22PM

  Re: How many top 10 defenses did the Rams play in 2018?

no name131April 08, 2019 03:43AM

  Re: How many top 10 defenses did the Rams play in 2018? Bingo

BumRap74April 09, 2019 08:59PM

  Goff also 4th in "failed completions" (a good thing) per FO

LMU93245April 05, 2019 06:04AM

  Re: Goff also 4th in "failed completions" (a good thing) per FO

cool_hand_luke203April 07, 2019 03:24PM

  Re: Sam Bradford says hey

merlin177April 07, 2019 08:03PM

  Agreed with other posters...

jemach236April 08, 2019 04:00PM