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Re: Good points both of you

February 12, 2019 07:32AM
I think for me it’s that he has looked so bad when things don’t go well

I mean he completely falls apart

As for the Peyton Manning 7th year comparison if Goff was in his 7th year but had the kind of command Manning had I probably wouldn’t have the doubts that I do now

Keep in mind that I’m not saying Jared isn’t good. What I am saying is that with his performance in those games against good to very good defenses I can’t shake his performance

It’s has left me with doubt and I’m pissed that I’m going to have to wait so long to see him and how and if he learns from this and gets better.

It just sucks for that performance to be the last taste in my mouth and in his biggest game ever. For McVay too

Hey Speed I hope you mind me jumping in here but I just wanted to add my two cents.

In the games you mentioned Goff did not play well. He was under siege the entire game in all of those games. However in the SB, I thought he battled. On that pass to Cooks that Cooks dropped (which was PI by the way), that pass was a dime...right on the money. On that other pass to Cooks in the end zone, that too was right on the money but the defender made a spectacular play.

Where I think he still needs work and hopefully this will come with more experience is that I don't think he's seeing the whole field yet. As others have mentioned, Reynolds was open a lot over the middle in the SB and Goff never saw him. He also has a tendency to hold the ball a bit too long at times which might be a product of McVays system where it's look long first. Those plays take longer to develop. His pocket presence looks great some times and not so great other times.

So, he's not a finished product. In my opinion, and I'm not trying to change yours, is that he's not there yet but I believe he's going to be great. I've seen enough of the great throws and plays from him that makes me believe that.

Hopefully I'm right!

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  Vikings Jared Goff v Bears/Pats Jared Goff

Speed_Kills623February 08, 2019 05:53PM

  completely disagree

zn296February 08, 2019 06:14PM

  Re:Goff is the SAME...the circumstances changed--Peyton Manning Comp

Steve185February 08, 2019 11:07PM

  Re: Good points both of you

Speed_Kills175February 09, 2019 04:49AM

  Re: Good points both of you

zn145February 09, 2019 06:17AM

  Facts are not relevant

waterfield109February 09, 2019 09:17AM

  Re: sort of like Gurley being too hurt to contribute

Speed_Kills194February 09, 2019 10:46AM

  I think that's true, he was too hurt to play 100%

zn82February 09, 2019 11:48AM

  we're approaching this differently W

zn113February 09, 2019 11:49AM

  Re: Good points both of you

RamsFanSinceLA78February 12, 2019 07:32AM

  not many QBs can do well when they are one dimensional

ferragamo79164February 08, 2019 06:25PM

  Re: Vikings Jared Goff v Bears/Pats Jared Goff Attachments

Ram49253February 08, 2019 06:31PM

  Michael Irvin on Inside the NFL

RamBill221February 08, 2019 07:07PM

  Fantastic breakdown, thanks

Ram49168February 08, 2019 07:27PM

  Re: Michael Irvin on Inside the NFL

zn219February 08, 2019 08:50PM

  Yep cant do that if Kupp is there

Hazlet Hacksaw152February 09, 2019 05:09AM

  If cooks makes those catches

PHDram168February 09, 2019 04:25AM


Ram49137February 09, 2019 08:07AM

  Re: Cooks

Speed_Kills191February 09, 2019 04:55AM

  I don’t think he’s top 10.......

Rampage2K-206February 08, 2019 07:53PM

  Re: top 5?

Speed_Kills145February 09, 2019 05:10AM

  Re: top 5?

Rams43116February 09, 2019 06:04AM

  Re: it’s ok 43 we can disagree on where he slots

Speed_Kills88February 09, 2019 08:18AM

  Re: it’s ok 43 we can disagree on where he slots

Rams4388February 09, 2019 08:23AM

  Re: Yup

Speed_Kills84February 09, 2019 08:34AM

  no way do I put Cam Newton

ferragamo7986February 09, 2019 07:10AM

  Re: ok but I bet you more people

Speed_Kills81February 09, 2019 08:32AM

  we will have a better idea

ferragamo7978February 09, 2019 02:54PM

  Re: yeah its killing me

Speed_Kills82February 09, 2019 05:00PM

  Re: we will have a better idea

AlbaNY_Ram108February 10, 2019 04:58AM

  Re: top 5? Why not? NFL.com has him 5th ranked also....

Rampage2K-198February 09, 2019 08:44AM

  Re: top 5? Why not? NFL.com has him 5th ranked also....

Rams4384February 09, 2019 09:03AM

  Re: top 5? Why not? NFL.com has him 5th ranked also....

Rampage2K-103February 09, 2019 09:18AM

  This might make you feel better.......Tom Brady's 7 worst games

Rampage2K-151February 09, 2019 09:21AM

  Re: top 5?

dzrams81February 09, 2019 09:34AM

  I rate him top 8- top 10 at worst

LMU9383February 09, 2019 01:15PM

  Re: I rate him top 8- top 10 at worst

Speed_Kills87February 09, 2019 05:02PM

  I'll be a little bit vague here...

LMU93177February 10, 2019 04:10AM

  Re: I'll be a little bit vague here...

zn95February 10, 2019 05:54AM

  Re: Good list.

Speed_Kills86February 10, 2019 06:50AM

  Re: Good list.

Rampage2K-107February 10, 2019 07:56AM

  Re: Good list.

dzrams86February 10, 2019 08:57AM

  Ryan did have an advantage early

zn83February 10, 2019 09:22AM

  Re: Idk

Speed_Kills81February 10, 2019 09:41AM

  Re: Idk

zn100February 10, 2019 10:12AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

Speed_Kills90February 10, 2019 10:57AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

dzrams78February 10, 2019 11:15AM

  Re: Thx dz. now we are talking

Speed_Kills100February 10, 2019 11:58AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

zn74February 10, 2019 11:39AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

dzrams93February 10, 2019 12:29PM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

zn98February 10, 2019 01:15PM

  Re: Idk

GroundPounder110February 10, 2019 04:06PM

  Re: Idk

zn108February 10, 2019 04:24PM

  Re: Idk

GroundPounder89February 10, 2019 05:07PM

  Re: Idk

zn91February 10, 2019 05:14PM

  Re: Idk

Rams4387February 11, 2019 07:30AM

  Goff has a winning record against your list of QBs

JoeMad123February 12, 2019 07:56AM

  top 10 QB with McVay Gurley Kupp

Rams_81161February 09, 2019 12:33PM

  Goff v Vikings highlights

Speed_Kills86February 10, 2019 07:27AM

  Step back for a while

max125February 10, 2019 11:59AM

  Re: Step back for a while

Rampage2K-107February 10, 2019 03:04PM

  Re: good stuff max

Speed_Kills85February 11, 2019 06:11AM

  Re: good stuff max

Rams4377February 11, 2019 07:36AM


zn93February 12, 2019 02:36PM

  I dunno Speed

max75February 12, 2019 01:06PM