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PHDram
im not sure I entirely disagree with your point but the examples you lay out are not overly convincing. in terms of average yearly salary for their starting QBs the teams you mention rank as follows
Saints = 6th
Chargers = 14th
Seattle = 11th
Colts =8th
conversely 8 of the top 10 paid QBs did NOT even make the playoffs.
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Ryan
Kirk Cousins
Jimmy Garoppolo
Matthew Stafford
Drew Brees
Derek Carr
Andrew Luck
Alex Smith
Joe Flacco
i on board with keeping goff and clearly there is more going on here than just salary, but paying the qb an "exorbitant" salary may be problematic in some cases.
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Los Angeles Lenny
But for the right price, not the over inflated market value, team killing price.
There's no such thing as cheaping out on the market if you want a franchise qb. There's no imaginary "right price." You want a franchise qb you pay what the market says you pay.
And it's not true that qb contracts kill teams. That's not true of the Saints, Chargers, Seattle, and the Colts for example.
Where they "rank" is irrelevant. In fact it has zero significance, for a lot of reasons.
If nothing else, the "ranking" has more to do with what year the qb in question got a 2nd contract (or 3rd, depending), That's why for example Carr is on a 25 M deal and Wilson is on a 22 M deal--one came up in 2017, one came up on 2015, and starting qb 2nd contracts go up annually. So any relation among the different contracts is arbitrary. What drives 2nd and 3rd contracts for starting qbs is mostly the market and the position market goes up annually.
And my main point is that teams can take a big percentage cap hit for their qb and still win. That's just true every year. There are always teams in the playoffs who have a qb on a big cap percentage contract. And in fact the list of qbs with typical big 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th contracts who either on winning teams or losing teams will change every year. Last year for example included Roethlisberger, Smith, Newton, Ryan, and Brees on the "winning list." That's different from this year's list.
In contrast there's no evidence that taking the normal big percentage cap hit for the qb causes you to LOSE. Most teams that are not winning, you can look and see why, and it's rarely if ever that they're paying their qb.
Other factors are obviously much more in play in every case and you cannot in advance determine a team's fortunes simply by the size of qb's contract.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/02/2019 12:42PM by zn.