November 15, 2018 12:23PM
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hammer
It’s a term describing a place from which teams are expected to score as a measure of success. But the ball being inside the 20 is rather arbitrary. It is certainly descriptive and makes it easier for coachs and commentators to make reference rather than getting into the detail. Not all red zone opportunities are the same. For example, first and goal with 4 seconds left in a tie game is not the same as 1st and goal with 2 minutes left? It isn’t hard to think of examples of Red Zone opportunities which are not equal, due to down, distance, score and time. Tell me, is it more probable for a team to score a TD if they are 1st or 2nd down and 10 from the 25 than if its 3rd or 4th down and 10 from the 19? How about 1st and 10 from the 38 or 4th and 15 form the 16? Yet, the measure of red zone efficiency does not include anything out side the 20, but does those poor down and distances inside the 20. We all expect our teams to score a TD when they get inside the 20 and more successful teams generally have a higher percentage of touch downs in that zone. I think a teams success may be better measured by drive efficiency. This is why I don’t get too worked up over that statistic. After all, whoever scores the most wins, whether the score came form the defense. special teams, the red zone or from 80 yards out. I like points scored per game stastic more. In fact at this time of the season the best statistic for the Rams is 9 wins and 1 loss!!!!!!!

Same with completion percentage. Every throw is different and is in a different situation. But---applied universally, all that evens out.

There is no argument against redzone effectiveness that doesn't apply equally to completion percentage.

But no one argues that completion percentage is not a valid stat.

It's the same thing though. All qbs face all sorts of variable circumstances yet it all evens out and so completion percentage is not under attack.

Exact same logic applies to RZ scoring.

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  Red Zone Report

jemach1113November 13, 2018 02:37PM

  Re: Red Zone Report

Rampage2K-361November 13, 2018 06:49PM

  Re: Red Zone Report

zn309November 13, 2018 07:18PM

  Re: Red Zone Report

Rampage2K-254November 13, 2018 07:32PM

  Re: Red Zone Report

zn230November 13, 2018 07:49PM

  Re: Red Zone Report

dzrams267November 13, 2018 08:58PM

  Re: Red Zone Report

zn232November 13, 2018 10:14PM

  Re: Red Zone Report

dzrams246November 14, 2018 07:33AM

  I think to get where we want to go...

jemach208November 14, 2018 09:45AM

  Re: And that position is starting to emerge...NM

dzrams205November 14, 2018 10:13AM

  Yeah...well...wake me up.

jemach266November 14, 2018 02:49PM

  Re: So so vague...

dzrams150November 14, 2018 03:07PM

  Prediction...with a porous defense...RZ will be our demise...

jemach257November 14, 2018 03:51AM

  Re: Prediction...with a porous defense...RZ will be our demise...

bigjimram21197November 14, 2018 03:57AM

  Who do we have to run down the middle of the field inside the 30...?

jemach270November 14, 2018 02:55PM

  Re: Prediction...with a porous defense...RZ will be our demise...

Rampage2K-225November 14, 2018 04:43AM

  Re: Prediction...with a porous defense...RZ will be our demise...

zn466November 14, 2018 04:51AM

  With Kupp out

max314November 14, 2018 12:47AM

  more slants to Everett...

SunTzu_vs_Camus241November 14, 2018 01:22AM

  Yeah, we're guessing right now.

max211November 14, 2018 04:48AM

  Re: I agree regarding Reynolds

Speed_Kills224November 14, 2018 07:48AM

  granted he was held a few times......

21Dog225November 14, 2018 08:03AM

  Re: yup and Seattle did too at least in that first game

Speed_Kills199November 14, 2018 08:48AM

  Re: yup and Seattle did too at least in that first game

73Ram210November 14, 2018 03:29PM

  Reynolds to me is Quick all over

Rams_81166November 15, 2018 09:10AM

  Reynolds has hardly played

21Dog201November 15, 2018 10:32AM

  Re: Reynolds is 2 years younger than Kupp

max162November 15, 2018 10:37AM

  Re: exactly and hes behind

Speed_Kills210November 15, 2018 10:44AM

  love the sig B

ferragamo79158November 15, 2018 12:24PM

  Thx sir nm

Speed_Kills149November 15, 2018 02:23PM

  Are you sure you're not talking about me...

jemach148November 15, 2018 12:31PM

  Re: yes I’m sure lol!!!

Speed_Kills146November 15, 2018 02:22PM

  Reminds me nothing of Quick...

jemach164November 15, 2018 12:29PM

  Re: yup the truth is we are going to know a lot more about him

Speed_Kills145November 15, 2018 02:25PM

  Re: yup the truth is we are going to know a lot more about him

max215November 16, 2018 02:14AM

  If he plays well, we can eliminate a need in 2019...

jemach156November 16, 2018 04:03AM

  Re: If he plays well, we can eliminate a need in 2019...

max140November 16, 2018 05:39AM

  Re: more slants to Everett...

Classicalwit286November 14, 2018 11:07AM

  hmmm.....

SunTzu_vs_Camus293November 14, 2018 01:21PM

  You said the magic phrase...

jemach255November 14, 2018 02:58PM

  Re: With Kupp out

Rams43206November 14, 2018 07:38AM

  Re: and Reynolds twice against the Packers nm

Speed_Kills206November 14, 2018 07:49AM

  WR is the one position the Rams can best weather an injury

SUretHing211November 14, 2018 02:47PM

  Re: Red Zone Report

moklerman218November 14, 2018 01:22AM

  Re: Here's why it's a concern: 8/10 top scoring offenses...

dzrams231November 14, 2018 07:47AM

  Re: great post dude

Speed_Kills222November 14, 2018 07:50AM

  Re: great post dude

dzrams333November 14, 2018 08:47AM

  Re: Red Zone Report Attachments

govane250November 14, 2018 07:56AM

  Love these shots...

jemach214November 14, 2018 03:00PM

  Re: Red Zone Report

leafnose289November 14, 2018 06:56PM

  Rams lead league in RZ scoring attempts

Rampage2K-678November 14, 2018 08:15AM

  Rams have improved from last year

moklerman212November 14, 2018 08:51PM

  Re: Keep in mind...

dzrams209November 14, 2018 09:19PM

  Re: Keep in mind...

moklerman212November 14, 2018 10:20PM

  Re: Keep in mind...

dzrams157November 15, 2018 07:29AM

  I agree that there's room for improvement

moklerman153November 15, 2018 02:46PM

  There Is No Red Zone - An NFL Scoring Myth

Rampage2K-268November 14, 2018 08:26AM

  Nonsense!

RFL344November 14, 2018 08:43AM

  Re: Nonsense!

AlbaNY_Ram253November 14, 2018 10:04AM

  Re: Nonsense!

Rampage2K-509November 14, 2018 11:12AM

  What I got out of it

SUretHing236November 14, 2018 01:27PM

  It doesn't matter if it's 20-25 yard line...

jemach265November 15, 2018 04:19AM

  yeah coaches themselves use this measure

zn237November 15, 2018 04:51AM

  Re: It doesn't matter if it's 20-25 yard line...

SUretHing159November 15, 2018 09:09AM

  Re: It doesn't matter if it's 20-25 yard line...

zn162November 15, 2018 12:19PM

  Re: It doesn't matter if it's 20-25 yard line...

SUretHing165November 15, 2018 12:53PM

  Re: It doesn't matter if it's 20-25 yard line...

zn156November 15, 2018 02:34PM

  Re: It doesn't matter if it's 20-25 yard line...

SUretHing164November 15, 2018 02:41PM

  Re: It doesn't matter if it's 20-25 yard line...

zn159November 15, 2018 03:54PM

  Re: It doesn't matter if it's 20-25 yard line...

SUretHing154November 15, 2018 04:03PM

  Re: It doesn't matter if it's 20-25 yard line...

zn164November 15, 2018 04:08PM

  Re: It doesn't matter if it's 20-25 yard line...

SUretHing159November 15, 2018 04:46PM

  Re: Many questions...

dzrams205November 15, 2018 05:16PM

  Re: Many questions...

SUretHing606November 15, 2018 05:30PM

  Re: Many questions...

dzrams192November 15, 2018 05:47PM

  Re: Many questions...

SUretHing458November 15, 2018 06:02PM

  Re: It all matters...

dzrams220November 15, 2018 06:21PM

  Re: It all matters...

SUretHing228November 15, 2018 06:39PM

  Re: It all matters...

dzrams231November 15, 2018 06:53PM

  Easy

SUretHing246November 15, 2018 06:55PM

  Re: Easy

dzrams392November 15, 2018 07:21PM

  Re: Easy

SUretHing504November 15, 2018 07:23PM

  I have always said the same thing

SUretHing222November 14, 2018 08:45AM

  Re: Red Zone is a convience

hammer224November 15, 2018 06:34AM

  Funny...

jemach160November 15, 2018 08:22AM

  Re: and why would Charlie Casserly mention it?

Speed_Kills277November 15, 2018 09:45AM

  I agree

Atlantic Ram159November 15, 2018 12:04PM

  Re: Red Zone is a convience

zn156November 15, 2018 12:23PM

  While we're doing this....

JamesJM223November 15, 2018 01:43PM

  Or INT on hail mary's..nm

SUretHing155November 15, 2018 01:50PM

  Re: While we're doing this....

zn159November 15, 2018 02:26PM

  Nope, don't agree....

JamesJM147November 15, 2018 02:35PM

  Re: Nope, don't agree....

zn159November 15, 2018 04:47PM

  Re: Nope, don't agree....

JamesJM150November 16, 2018 06:39AM

  Re: Nope, don't agree....

zn142November 16, 2018 07:03AM

  I get what you're saying...

JamesJM147November 16, 2018 07:14AM

  Re: I get what you're saying...

zn147November 16, 2018 07:20AM