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Re: Is he though?

September 14, 2018 03:41PM
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Hav'e contract is structured so that he could be cut after 2019 without a big hit to the cap. [overthecap.com]

But I'm convinced already that Hav will be one of the Rams' core players thru this contract and possibly beyond.

I wouldn't make a right tackle a core player.

Right tackles are right tackles for a reason. It's because (with a handful of exceptions) there's more human beings who can play right tackle than left tackle.

Besides, the real question is, is Hav harder or easier to replace than any player they will lose because they signed Hav?

I agree that there's a good chance he's gone after 2019. Not because he's a bad player because he isn't a bad player. He's solid. People who study film and rank ROTS rank him anywhere from 11th to 15th or so. It's because you need to save core big contracts for players who are more than just solid and who are harder to replace.

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I don’t disagree with your premise, zn. In fact, I think it’s spot on.

But so far I have to say that the Rams have been doing a terrific job of extending their elite type core players. Only when (or if) that becomes no longer possible, THEN it’s time to prune the “solid” types. But meanwhile, let’s try to have our cake and eat it, too. Lol.

I'm honestly confused why someone would be upset we extended one of the better RT's in the league???


I think there is some disagreement on whether Hav is one of the better RTs in the league. I don't see him that way.

Decent and solid are my descriptors for him. The Rams may well have a higher opinion of him.

Also I don't see anyone upset per se...

Yeah no one's upset. It's not an emotional issue.

It's a philosophical discussion about who you extend and who you don't, given that sooner or later, the Rams are going to have to be selective when it comes to that.

In 2019 the Rams have 10 top contracts (over 6 M): Donald, Whitworth, Cooks, Brockers, Gurley, Peters, Barron, Goff, Havenstein, Talib. They also have appx 36 M in cap space. So right now it's not an urgent issue. But eventually they're going to have to pay Goff more than 30 M, and also pay Peters a lot too (17 M?) (he's on the list of 10 for 2019 but at only 9 M right now), and at that point, they won't be able to afford 10 guys. They will have at least (probably) Donald, Goff, Cooks, Gurley, and Peters. With Goff costing then what 3 guys cost now, how many can they keep besides the key core 5? (BTW I just want to add that the Key Core 5 was my favorite top 40 style british invasion band of 1966).










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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 09/14/2018 04:01PM by zn.
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  Breer: Whitworth has to be one of the top free agent signings of the last 5 years

RamBill797September 13, 2018 06:27PM

  Re: Breer: Whitworth has to be one of the top free agent signings of the last 5 years

stlrams13260September 13, 2018 06:55PM

  A nice second round pick, 55th overall.

Ramadune354September 13, 2018 07:23PM

  Whitworth vs Robinson

LMU93217September 14, 2018 02:46AM

  Which is why...I just don't like...

jemach187September 14, 2018 06:03AM

  I agree!

Ramadune212September 14, 2018 11:13AM

  And how about Hav

max306September 13, 2018 11:45PM

  Re: And how about Hav

zn288September 14, 2018 03:20AM

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max315September 14, 2018 03:42AM

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dzrams211September 14, 2018 06:05AM

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max214September 14, 2018 06:40AM

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zn186September 14, 2018 10:37AM

  Ok, then tell me why....

max176September 14, 2018 11:03AM

  Re: Ok, then tell me why....

zn181September 14, 2018 11:17AM

  imagine if Belichick knew better! LOL

max243September 14, 2018 11:47AM

  Re: imagine if Belichick knew better! LOL

zn290September 14, 2018 12:58PM

  Re: imagine if Belichick knew better! LOL

max203September 14, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: imagine if Belichick knew better! LOL

zn386September 14, 2018 01:44PM

  Took you long enough

max219September 14, 2018 02:59PM

  Re: Took you long enough

zn159September 14, 2018 03:01PM

  Yeah, thats good too

max121September 14, 2018 03:08PM

  except

zn148September 14, 2018 03:23PM

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max147September 14, 2018 03:36PM

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zn144September 15, 2018 02:45AM

  That’s good, they also said this...

max113September 15, 2018 03:13AM

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zn103September 15, 2018 03:40AM

  Re: That’s good, they also said this...

max127September 15, 2018 03:52AM

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  Don't mind the Hav extension but......

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zn373September 14, 2018 03:41PM

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zn247September 14, 2018 02:01PM

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max78September 15, 2018 08:06AM

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zn90September 15, 2018 05:24AM

  Replacing Greg Robinson with him biggest upgrade in profession sports

Rams_81149September 15, 2018 05:20AM

  So true. Great points.

Saguaro214September 15, 2018 05:23AM

  Re: So true. Great points.

zn146September 15, 2018 05:30AM