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Although it is true that Wade has traditionally valued edge rushers
I don’t like that AD is allowing himself to be used to reset the market
Is it "re-setting"?
In 2015 Suh's contract was 86% of the top qb's contract.
In 2016 it was similar with Von Miller.
In 2018, Von Miller's older deal, the highest for a defender, comes in at 63% of the top qb contract.
The market was already set for top defenders, it just regressed.
Give AD just 80% of the top qb's contract and it's 24 M. Which is not only NOT unreasonable, it doesn't even fully restore the market to what it already was for top defenders with Suh and Von Miller.
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You keep ignoring the other factors behind Suh and Miller's contracts...
Suh was an actual free agent, who could go to the highest bidder....nuff said.
Miller was coming off a Super Bowl MVP and had already played his 5th year and was heading towards the franchise tag.
Donald is neither of those.
These are factors that need to be addressed when comparing the contracts.
No, those particular points have come up before, and I've answered them several times, and not even just on this board. Here goes again.
Of all the contracts signed this year, what difference did being "an actual free agent" make? Pick someone and explain. For example, Cooks was not a FA this year, Watkins was. They both got around 16 M. Strangely so did every WR who came up this year whether they were free agents or not.
Meanwhile, some more relevant facts.
Carr got 25 M. Wilson got 22 M (about). Yet Wilson had won a superbowl at that point and Carr has has had only 1 winning season, and has been in only one playoff game (which they lost). What explains the difference? Simple. Wilson came up in 2015 and Carr came up in 2017. That's it. That's the difference. Contracts go up and the year matters.
Plus of course of the existing "best defender" contracts, the 1st under the new CBA was Watt in 2014. He got 16.6 M. With that contract, he was the highest paid at his position at that point, for a few years anyway, and it was high in comparison to some top qbs too. He was not a free agent and he had never been to a superbowl.
If you dont; factor things like ALL that in, you're not talking about how 2nd contracts really work.
The year counts. Previous contracts count. Contracts increase. They increase by a fair percentage. If you are a team and you ignore all that you just cause yourself problems.
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