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Re: Negotiation process and the Difference in Donald and Mack

June 02, 2018 07:43AM
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David Deacon
Right now everything that is written is speculation as neither side will reveal all of the cards. It is way to early for a deal to get done as Donald still has leverage by withholding his services from all the voluntary team activities. The next leverage point doesn’t come until Donald reaches the point to where he loses a year of free agency eligibility if he doesn’t report. Somewhere around that time will probably be the first chance that a deal gets done. If it doesn’t get done there and he doesn’t report they will be playing a game of chicken regarding him holding out until they get a deal. At that point the start of the season will be the leverage point for both parties.

There is a slight difference in the Donald and Mack situations. Mack is guaranteed 13M + due to his higher draft position while Donald is only guaranteed 6.9m so Donald is risking way more than Mack buy not getting a deal. With a guarantee of 60M+ in a new deal you can see that Donald will have to risk a bunch of money to play without a new deal. Now I know they an buy insurance against injury but it will be at great cost and not for the full amount. Donald also loses 13mil for the year if he fails to sign a 20M deal while Mack only loses around 7M. Again Donald should be more financially motivated though both should take the money this year once they have forced the best and final offer from the teams.

It makes sense for both guys to sign so that is why I think they will. There is a lot of money on the table and the players bear all the risk if they don’t sign. Most of what we are reading is posturing in the press to add pressure to one side or the other.

How is Donald risking anything? If the Rams never sign him there are teams that will. I seriously doubt the Rams would sit on his rights for 3 years while he does nothing and they get nothing for him. That would just look like sheer spite on the Rams part.

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Well, AD’s biggest risk if he doesn’t extend is suffering a serious injury. He would then be without leverage AND would lose millions even compared to the most recent Ram offer, whatever that might be. This is something a good agent should be pounding into his head at every opportunity.

Your other point that the Rams would “sit on his rights for 3 years while he does nothing” reveals a misunderstanding of true leverage and a disregard for the trade options that would be available to the Rams in a mega-auction for AD’s services.

For maybe the 10th time, the Rams have all the leverage and have all the cards in this negotiation chess match. You may not like it. You may not accept it. But it is nevertheless true, and the Rams know it.
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  Aaron Donald is key to the Rams' grand plans -- so pay the man

RamBill665May 31, 2018 12:08PM

  Re: Aaron Donald is key to the Rams' grand plans -- so pay the man

Rams43219May 31, 2018 01:58PM

  Re: It may be something else...

dzrams192May 31, 2018 06:40PM

  I can't believe it's sticker shock at $20 million...

jemach257June 02, 2018 04:00AM

  yeah I doubt this is about "sticker shock"

zn163June 02, 2018 04:47AM

  Re: I'm with you guys...

dzrams250June 02, 2018 03:17PM

  Re: It may be something else...

oldmanram221June 03, 2018 03:34AM

  Re: It may be something else...

zn166June 03, 2018 03:55AM

  good points made here, zn...

SunTzu_vs_Camus126June 03, 2018 07:24AM

  Re: It may be something else...

Rams43176June 03, 2018 07:43AM

  Re: It may be something else...

AlbaNY_Ram178June 03, 2018 11:18AM

  and it's a commonl issue

zn142June 03, 2018 11:33AM

  Re: and it's a banal issue

Rams43141June 03, 2018 11:53AM

  I dunno....I'm starting to see the value in it...

SunTzu_vs_Camus196June 03, 2018 11:52AM

  Re: I dunno....I'm starting to see the value in it...

Rams43145June 03, 2018 12:02PM

  Re: Choices must be made...

dzrams156June 03, 2018 01:00PM

  Re: Choices must be made...

zn146June 03, 2018 01:50PM

  Re: Choices must be made...

zn174June 05, 2018 05:22AM

  Re: Choices must be made...

Rams43176June 03, 2018 04:10PM

  Re: Choices must be made...

dzrams155June 03, 2018 08:08PM

  Re: Choices must be made...

Rams43116June 04, 2018 07:05AM

  Re: Choices must be made...

dzrams127June 04, 2018 10:48AM

  thinking out loud

zn137June 03, 2018 07:40PM

  Re: thinking out loud

dzrams127June 03, 2018 08:11PM

  Re: thinking out loud

zn145June 03, 2018 08:30PM

  That was an interesting response...

jemach233June 03, 2018 04:36PM

  Re: That was an interesting response...

zn136June 04, 2018 05:08AM

  I don’t need her to tell me

max232May 31, 2018 03:12PM

  this detail is really important

zn371May 31, 2018 03:37PM

  Re: this detail is really important

Rams43195May 31, 2018 04:32PM

  to be specific

zn143June 05, 2018 05:28AM

  What happened to the very plausible explanation...

Atlantic Ram195May 31, 2018 07:42PM

  My crystal ball says no deal will happen with Donald.....ever

RockRam195June 02, 2018 05:17AM

  Negotiation process and the Difference in Donald and Mack

David Deacon218June 02, 2018 05:45AM

  Re: Negotiation process and the Difference in Donald and Mack

zn180June 02, 2018 05:55AM

  No way. That's not "spite" at all.

RockRam365June 02, 2018 07:18AM

  Re: No way. That's not "spite" at all.

zn186June 02, 2018 07:54AM

  Re: No way. That's not "spite" at all.

Rams43145June 02, 2018 08:46AM

  Re: No way. That's not "spite" at all.

Rampage2K-163June 02, 2018 09:16AM

  Re: No way. That's not "spite" at all.

zn162June 02, 2018 09:23AM

  Re: No way. That's not "spite" at all.

Rampage2K-154June 02, 2018 10:59AM

  Re: Negotiation process and the Difference in Donald and Mack

Rams43146June 02, 2018 07:43AM

  Re: Negotiation process and the Difference in Donald and Mack

David Deacon161June 02, 2018 01:15PM

  Re: Negotiation process and the Difference in Donald and Mack

Rams43147June 02, 2018 07:48AM

  why is that "obvious"

zn366June 02, 2018 06:03AM

  Re: why is that "obvious"

bigjimram21173June 02, 2018 10:40AM

  we don't "know" that

zn193June 02, 2018 12:56PM

  Re: we don't "know" that

bigjimram21167June 04, 2018 03:27PM

  Re: we don't "know" that

zn127June 04, 2018 03:32PM

  Re: we don't "know" that

bigjimram21107June 04, 2018 03:37PM

  There was something on twitter saying Demoff explained it

max277June 02, 2018 06:11PM

  vid from author of this article (Aaron Donald is key to the Rams' grand plans -- so pay the man)

zn158June 04, 2018 06:44AM