May 04, 2018 07:53AM
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Bad approach.

You sign him now or pay A LOT more when he is a free agent with risk of losing him.

Bad approach? Is there a right approach? lol IMO, damned if you do, damned if you don't. What would people be saying if they gave him $16 mil or more now and he didn't perform well? I can imagine all the posts saying how we over paid a guy without knowing if he was right for the system.

I can also imagine all the posts if we sign him after the season if he does well saying we should of signed him earlier and we had to pay too much. It's a no win set up for the Rams. Damned if they do...damned if they don't.

Didn't Fisher get blasted for paying Foles too soon?!!

Also, maybe Cooks doesn't want to be signed now knowing he will have more leverage later if he performs well.

Yes. There is a right approach, or rather a better one. IMO.

I could give a darn about this presumed "leverage" thing btw, I think that's mostly just made up.

But it goes like this.

Contracts go up. They just do. They always do.

So whatever is the range to sign a WR up for a second contract is now...it will simply be more in 2019.

You sign him now or pay more in 2019.

This whole "what is a player worth" thing is abstract. It doesn't really mean anything. The major consideration is the market. As in, if I don't pay this, someone else will.

So if you wait until 2019, someone else could throw money at him, and make him more expensive. And if that happens, you could lose him and then have to find a receiver, PLUS you lost a 1st round pick on a one year rental.

So you look at the market and say this is what WRs up for a 2nd contract are getting, and pay it now, to avoid those 2 bad outcomes.

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So do you think paying Foles as early as they did was the right approach?

Yes and I said so at the time.

When it comes to Cooks, it's either

1. You pay him now

Or

2. risk having to pay him a lot more, if not risk losing him, and that means they wasted a 1st round pick.

Yes IMO paying now is always the better policy.

You don't put a well-performing 4 year players in a prove it year. You do that with older players who were injured or have to demonstrate they can still play.

Will a player now and then get injured, or fall off in performance? Sure. But that's the better risk than having to pay everyone more because you can't tell when a player offers what you need and so you lock him up.

Why would you spend a 1st round pick on a player you were not sure about? Makes no sense.


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  Les Snead: We want Brandin Cooks around for a long time

RamBill797May 03, 2018 12:14PM

  Re: Les Snead (2017)We want Sammy Watkins around for a long time

max258May 03, 2018 12:28PM

  Yep

Speedball89229May 03, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: Les Snead (2017)We want Sammy Watkins around for a long time

AlbaNY_Ram299May 03, 2018 12:56PM

  Re: Les Snead (2017)We want Sammy Watkins around for a long time

zn213May 03, 2018 05:50PM

  Re: Les Snead (2017)We want Sammy Watkins around for a long time

max225May 04, 2018 03:21AM

  Re: Les Snead (2017)We want Sammy Watkins around for a long time

Ramsdude169May 04, 2018 05:14AM

  Re: Les Snead (2017)We want Sammy Watkins around for a long time

zn161May 04, 2018 06:19AM

  Re: Les Snead (2017)We want Sammy Watkins around for a long time

Ramsdude138May 04, 2018 07:18AM

  yes

zn169May 04, 2018 07:37AM

  Re: yes

Ramsdude430May 04, 2018 07:48AM

  Re: yes

zn281May 04, 2018 07:53AM

  Re: yes

AlbaNY_Ram156May 04, 2018 08:08AM

  Re: yes

Ramsdude124May 04, 2018 08:17AM

  then

zn171May 04, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: Then you don't give up a 1st in trade for him...

dzrams157May 04, 2018 11:47AM

  So much detail and info in this story...

promomasterj299May 03, 2018 12:56PM

  Snead needs to shut the H up already!

RFIP265May 03, 2018 01:50PM

  And it needs to be a player they don't trade away soon after

promomasterj209May 03, 2018 03:14PM

  I hear ya...

jemach202May 03, 2018 03:19PM

  Re: I hear ya...

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  Re: I hear ya...

The_Zone241May 03, 2018 04:11PM

  Your going to tell me Snead has ZERO to do...

jemach244May 03, 2018 04:57PM

  Your going to tell me Snead has ZERO to do: Well Put jemach

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  Re: Your going to tell me Snead has ZERO to do...

The_Zone203May 03, 2018 06:03PM

  Re: Your going to tell me Snead has ZERO to do...

zn208May 03, 2018 07:45PM

  Re: Your going to tell me Snead has ZERO to do...

dzrams192May 03, 2018 08:01PM

  Re: Your going to tell me Snead has ZERO to do...

zn202May 04, 2018 03:19AM

  Slight correction needed here in the interests of accuracy...

Rams43246May 03, 2018 03:29PM

  He has no input?

jemach261May 03, 2018 04:53PM

  Re: He has no input?

Rams43240May 03, 2018 05:27PM

  This is fairly simple

max173May 04, 2018 03:36AM

  Re: He has no input?

AlbaNY_Ram196May 03, 2018 05:39PM

  Re: He has no input?

David Deacon151May 04, 2018 02:43AM

  Re: Snead needs to shut the H up already!

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  Re: Les Snead: Schein

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