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Re: I don't think so

March 28, 2018 04:39AM
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Suh, OBJ, ADonald, MPeters???? Well, not Suh...but the other 3 if the OBJ trade is made. All tops at their position obviously.
....not counting TGII or Goff yet I guess.

I don't know how we can afford paying the top dollar to that many players....even tho they may be the best at their position.

btw-
Are the Rams loading up and signing like this cuz they know the CBA will be torn up in 3 seasons/after 2020?
Are we doin what Dallas/Wash/Philly?/etc did before the last CBA?? iirc...where they got fined for loading contracts with the CBA in mind or somethin...
I can't remember what happened but I thot they used the CBA to load up on contracts that was in "bad faith" somehow.

I don't thnk they can do 3 at that rate. Let's say the cap is 200 M in 2020. 60% of that is 120 M. Goff btw will be in the 30s, not the 20s. So let's say that Goff and Donald are 50+ M. That leaves 70 M for let's say 7 more players. You probably can;t squeeze another 20 M player into that. Or you can't without reducing the number of 60%ers you keep.

But here's the thing. I don't think the Rams are teambuilding in the traditional sense. Well they are but that's not all they're doing. I think in addition to developing a core of keepers, guys who end up being part of the 60%, they're also getting into doing year at a time rentals. So there's a chance they go through this every year. They aren't striving to build a team that includes Suh and Peters longterm. Every year though they want to add this or that difference maker, depending on opportunity.

I don't know about the Dallas etc. "bad faith" thing you refer to so I can;t comment on that.



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Why do you lump in Peters with Suh? What tells you Peters is a rental and not part of the longterm plan?

You might be right. But either way there's only so many high second contract players they can keep.

Donald and Goff combined are going to be more than 50 M.

By the time Peters comes up for a 2nd contract, CBs of his caliber will be 17 M or more.

I don't even know if they can exercise a 5th year on him.

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I agree with your first 3 statements. I don't know how they can fit all of them in.

Part of the problem is, it seems many are underestimating the future costs of Peters. Given that TruJ signed for $15M, I think he would have been at $17M in this market.

He could easily be a $20M player in 2020.

BTW, the Rams can exercise a 5th year option on him since the deadline hasn't passed. They have until May 3rd.

Well I bet they do exercise the option then, and end up in a situation after 2019 where they have to decide whether to keep him, and yes at that point he is probably going to be a 20 M player.

The question then becomes, how many of those can you have...and is this one so good that he's worth it.

Just guesstimating but if they have Donald, Goff, and Peters, that's probably more than 70 M right there. 60% of a 200 M cap in 2020 is 120 M, and subtract 70 M from that and you have 50 M. That leaves room for 4-5 players in the 9-11 M range.

So I think it's possible that Peters is a 2 year merc. (I like the term merc better than rental. For no valid reason. Just like it.)

BUT then I ALSO think that they get into trades and/or merc signings every year. That that's not just teambuilding in 2018, it's a repeat thing from now on. But it will be different mercs every year.

That can work if the other, traditional team building choices work too. Talking about the combo of draft picks, including accumulating comp picks; plus UDFAs; plus picking up low budget FA like Robey-Coleman and "ronin" (young vets who have been cut) like Bythe.

It's the old Vermeil model. How do you acquire players? By fully maximizing each and every mode of player acquisition available to you. So you draft Hakim and Little, you trade for Faulk, you pick up McCollum in the budget FA market, you add "ronin" like Nutten, you add high-end FAs like Timmerman, and you add UDFAs like Jenkins, Horne, and Fletcher.

Max overdrive approach.




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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/28/2018 04:50AM by zn.
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  Rams 2020 $150M cap space in context

CeeZar713March 27, 2018 06:19AM

  Re: Rams 2020 $150M cap space in context

LMU93300March 27, 2018 09:55AM

  Re: Rams 2020 $150M cap space in context

Steve156March 27, 2018 10:28AM

  I would not be shocked...

Ramsfsninmd280March 27, 2018 11:01AM

  Re: I would not be shocked...

LMU93207March 27, 2018 11:26AM

  Rams have over $163M in cap space for 2020

AlbaNY_Ram236March 27, 2018 12:13PM

  and it might be more

zn186March 27, 2018 05:16PM

  ...do we have room to pay 20m to 3-4 players?

SunTzu_vs_Camus158March 28, 2018 01:56AM

  I don't think so

zn169March 28, 2018 03:15AM

  interesting...thnx on yer take

SunTzu_vs_Camus187March 28, 2018 04:02AM

  Re: interesting...thnx on yer take

zn142March 28, 2018 04:05AM

  cool...I'm not "that" out of it, then! LOL

SunTzu_vs_Camus122March 28, 2018 04:08AM

  Re: I don't think so

dzrams138March 28, 2018 04:08AM

  I lumped Suh in with everyone else...my mistake....Suh is the rental....

SunTzu_vs_Camus122March 28, 2018 04:15AM

  Re: I don't think so

zn207March 28, 2018 04:18AM

  Re: I don't think so

dzrams130March 28, 2018 04:26AM

  Re: I don't think so

zn297March 28, 2018 04:39AM

  LOL..."Merc" is waaaay cooler term!!!

SunTzu_vs_Camus109March 28, 2018 04:42AM

  remember they will replace players

ferragamo79187March 27, 2018 12:40PM

  Re: The cap is at $177M now...

dzrams210March 27, 2018 01:04PM

  Yep. Which is why giving up 2 First rounders for Beckham would be detrimental

RockRam133March 28, 2018 03:57AM