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December 09, 2017 01:58PM
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RockRam
You always like to trot out the move.
Fisher was 5 years worth of failure. Not 1, Not 2, Not 4. 5.

But if you still want to defend the guy that is certainly your right. You might be the only guy on the planet, other than Fisher himself, who still would. But I admire a guy who sticks to his guns......no matter how rusty they might be.

Look back at the post. I already answered that. And I will get to that (and repeat it) in a moment. First, the move wasn't the only issue in 2916. There was also starting a rookie qb much of the way, without a running game. Those things got combined with other factors. And btw it's fine with me if they fired Fisher. After the team fell completely apart down the stretch in 2016, a new start was completely sensible.

Back to what I already said about the previous 4 years. How many times in 2012-2015 could or did the start Rams BOTH a starting caliber qb AND a relatively healthy, relatively veteran OL?

It's 15 out of 64 games.

Now you can discount that if you want (though to me there's no good argument for discounting it). But you won't convince me it wasn't a factor---not unless you can name teams that did well under the same kinds of conditions, with the same double whammy (extensively injured and/or extensively inexperienced OLs and/or both, PLUS having to start a #2 caliber qb). The reason people can't name examples is a simple fact that stands completely to reason...it's harder to play winning offense under those conditions.

Heck going 7-9 under those conditions is something of an accomplishment if you ask me.

Or if you don't think it matters, wish it on McVay. He has to start a #2 caliber qb (Allen) and an extensively injured OL the majority of the time. Does he do as well as he is now? Obviously not. Which is why, speaking for myself, I don't wish it on him. cool smiley

I don't know how much better Fisher would have done without that double whammy factor but it stands to reason he would have done better.

So, the upshot is, I don't agree with what you call your "bottom line." To me that's not a "bottom line," what you said was just one opinion among other possible opinions of what happened.


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RamBill679December 08, 2017 04:05PM

  GM Les Snead executive of the year

leafnose269December 08, 2017 06:00PM

  Re: Snead is a boob riding McVay's success...

spagsbacker291December 08, 2017 08:15PM

  Have you thought about changing your screen name?

Ramadune263December 08, 2017 09:37PM

  Re: yes, but decided spagsbacker is kinda funny..

spagsbacker199December 08, 2017 10:03PM

  Re: yes, but decided spagsbacker is kinda funny..

idaram253December 08, 2017 10:19PM

  Sorry, but I think those comments are way off base.

RockRam176December 09, 2017 04:20AM

  Re: Sorry, but I think those comments are way off base.

David Deacon391December 09, 2017 04:37AM

  agree

zn200December 09, 2017 05:21AM

  True. Bottom line: Snead got the people, Fisher blew the coaching.

RockRam168December 09, 2017 06:26AM

  I don't agree with your bottomline

zn279December 09, 2017 06:42AM

  Forget the move. How about the years before that?

RockRam158December 09, 2017 01:13PM

  I answered that

zn165December 09, 2017 01:58PM

  Re: Snead is a boob riding McVay's success...

David Deacon161December 09, 2017 04:33AM

  It’s a mistake to treat an obvious troll-like post seriously, fellas...

Rams43158December 09, 2017 05:52AM

  Re: You do realize you missed the main criteria right?

dzrams155December 09, 2017 08:52AM

  So who drafted

PHDram166December 09, 2017 08:59AM

  Snead is mediocre at best

six2stack172December 09, 2017 12:29PM

  Re: Snead is mediocre at best

Rams43151December 09, 2017 12:57PM

  Re: Snead is mediocre at best

spagsbacker153December 09, 2017 01:13PM

  Re: Snead is mediocre at best

XXXIVwin274December 09, 2017 04:15PM

  so they are doing it without players?

zn169December 09, 2017 02:06PM

  Snead better at Pro Personnel than drafting...

jemach167December 09, 2017 04:57AM

  that's just simply not true

zn308December 09, 2017 05:25AM

  If drafting is so easy with quantity

PHDram269December 09, 2017 07:29PM

  To me....Demoff is the real Executive to praise

chunkmeister236December 08, 2017 09:44PM

  Re: To me....Demoff is the real Executive to praise

David Deacon167December 09, 2017 04:38AM

  I give Demoff minimal credit...

jemach164December 09, 2017 04:53AM

  Demoff deserves credit...

max168December 09, 2017 06:02AM

  and

zn177December 09, 2017 06:44AM

  Re: Demoff

leafnose173December 09, 2017 07:58AM

  i dont like him

wv ram207December 09, 2017 08:12AM

  Re: Ahhh no Hall and Oates?...NM

laram258December 09, 2017 08:24AM

  LOL

ferragamo79173December 09, 2017 01:07PM

  Re: i dont like him

den-the-coach172December 09, 2017 05:33PM

  do you coach football?

wv ram184December 09, 2017 06:00PM

  Re: do you coach football?

den-the-coach173December 09, 2017 06:16PM