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Re: Tavon contract questions for a capologist?

November 01, 2017 03:05PM
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XXXIVwin
Yes, I know there are a bunch of (very interesting) Tavon threads out there already, but I had a specific question for a Herd capologist guru. (Who is our resident cap guru, anyway....?)
I am using this page for reference for Tavon contract details:
[overthecap.com]

I wanted confirmation on the following numbers:

2017 cap number: 15 mil. (Wow)

2018 cap number: 8 mil.

2018 effect on cap if released: 5 mil dead money, 3 mil cap savings.

2019 cap number: 9 mil, zero dead money if released.

Effect of trading Tavon in spring of 2018: if there is a willing trade partner ( unlikely since it would involve a team willing to pay Tavon about 9 million per year for the next four years?), Rams would save the full 8 mill in cap savings For 2018.

The “Tavon debate” for 2018 PROBABLY boils down to two options: (a) keep him or (b) cut him and absorb 5 mil in dead money but also “save” 3 mil which can be used elsewhere.

So my specific question is this: technically speaking, if we traded Tavon next year, we would not have any dead money and would save the full 8 mil. for 2018. However, this scenario is still UNLIKELY because a trade partner would have to absorb the remaining 3 or 4 years of his contract at 8 or 9 mil per year?

In other words— is it accurate to say that trading Tavon in 2018 is still unlikely because most teams would be unwilling to take on his inflated contract? And is a trade involving a restructure unlikely as well?

Lastly— I think RockRam made a persuasive case for keeping Tavon in 2018 because it is unlikely the Rams will find a better player for 3 million. I just wanted confirmation that the possibility of trading Tavon next year— and saving the full 8 mil- is highly unlikely.

I wouldn't call myself a capologist guru but I'm familiar enough with cap.

You've done a very good job here laying out the financial implications of Tavon's remaining contract.

I personally think a trade in 2018 is unlikely because I don't think they'll find a team willing to pay him $8M in 2018. However, if a team was willing to pay that amount in 2018, they probably wouldn't mind the $9M - $9.5M he is owed annually between 2019 - 2021. Especially given that they can release him next season with no dead money.

A restructure is something that could be done if the Rams were intent on moving him and couldn't find a team willing to absorb the entire $8M next year. If a team was willing to take a flyer on him in the $5M - $6M range, the Rams could convert some of that $5M roster bonus into pro-rated bonus money over the remaining 4 years right before a trade. When they trade him, they would immediately "eat" that amount on their salary cap.

But a restructure that would lower Tavon's salary is probably not going to happen. He's already guaranteed $5M next year and could most likely get more than $3M on the open market. He would have no incentive to take a pay cut.

I guess my conclusion is, the Rams could trade him if they absolutely wanted to.



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