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Re: Wentz is so good.....

October 13, 2017 05:31AM
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den-the-coach
Wentz is a Stud and I doubt Fisher would still be the coach, but for the life of me, I cannot understand how Fisher went with Goff over Wentz. It has been reported that Fisher was against moving up, but once the Rams did, he had the choice between the two and quite frankly I don't understand how Fisher went with Goff as Wentz seemed more like his type of Quarterback. Wentz was bigger and came out of a pro style attack plus had called more plays on top of that was more of a lunch pail type of QB that was a better runner too.

Overall I wanted Wentz, he just seemed like the more obvious pick the only pluses Goff had over him was a larger body of work, better competition and Goff was superior in the red zone, also Wentz was not very durable at North Dakota State University and as Max pointed out in many posts, Wentz was a full two years older, but again I will never understand how if it was Fisher's call, he went Goff...I still believe the fact that Goff played at Cal and was from California was a major factor because if Goff played at Purdue for example and was from Ohio, I believe the Rams pick might have been different.

Have to disagree. It has not been "reported" that Fisher didn't want to move up, it has been gossip/rumored (and not by anyone with any inside knowledge or info, it's just ordinary gossip/speculation-presented-as-fact). Not everything that shows up in this or that corner of the sports media is "reporting"--it is often just talking head hot air.

Snead was on ESPNLA I think last spring and was directly interviewed by a couple of the main instigators of that particular piece of gossip. He answered them in detail and at length and pretty much silenced them. (On top of it, Fisher HAS had a qb foisted on him, and we knew about it--he found ways to let it be known. So...why the elaborate act THIS time, which even included a reporter, Mike Silver, embedded in their war room during the draft. That would entail some oscar worthy days long acting if it was all a lie.)

And I for one completely understand taking Goff.

You compare Goff and Wentz and they just have entirely different skill sets, and when you balance them out objectively, it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

So then you just have to ask, what are the skills Goff has them make HIM a good pick, as opposed to the skills Wentz has that make him a good pick too.

Neither one will come out as "better," just both good AND different.

Either way you have to build around the skills of the guy you chose. Phil for example acquired receivers who can compensate for Wentz's lesser accuracy as a long range passer. The Rams in contrast want a full deck of different kinds of receivers so that they can program in anything they want, taking advantage of Goff's inherent all-range accuracy as a passer.

My best guess is that they will both be good for a long time, though it was always going to take Goff longer to get there. They started at completely different points on the scale. Goff's college system is notorious for causing qbs to be behind when they arrive in the pros; Wentz played in a pro style system. But sooner or later that will just even out.

Taking one over the other just gets down to which longterm skill set you value more. And then from that point on, as I said, you just build around that skill set, whichever it is.




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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/13/2017 05:43AM by zn.
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  Wentz is so good.....

Los Angeles Lenny1179October 12, 2017 08:15PM

  Re: Wentz is so good.....

dodgerram546October 12, 2017 08:29PM

  Wentz is good so is Goff

David Deacon434October 13, 2017 03:47AM

  Wentz is better than Goff right now

moklerman486October 13, 2017 07:08AM

  Re: Wentz is better than Goff right now

zn394October 13, 2017 08:13AM

  Yup. Nice post. nm

max235October 13, 2017 08:19AM

  Wentz is 24 - Goff is 22

no name278October 13, 2017 07:32AM

  Re: Wentz is so good.....

Rampage2K-468October 12, 2017 09:57PM

  Re: Wentz is so good.....

den-the-coach319October 13, 2017 03:02AM

  Re: Wentz is so good.....

zn322October 13, 2017 05:31AM

  Re: Wentz is so good.....

max315October 13, 2017 05:38AM

  Great post that 3 years is huge

Los Angeles Lenny252October 13, 2017 08:58AM

  Agree that Brady would be bad under Fisher even

Rams_81285October 13, 2017 03:17AM

  Re: disagree that Brady would be bad under Fisher even

den-the-coach320October 13, 2017 03:33AM

  Brady IS NOT Marino like, please don't do that.

max272October 13, 2017 05:49AM

  Re: Brady IS NOT Marino like, please don't do that.

den-the-coach471October 13, 2017 08:43AM

  Re: Brady IS NOT Marino like, please don't do that.

max252October 13, 2017 10:53AM

  Re: Wentz is so good.....

zn332October 13, 2017 04:33AM

  Yeah, I agree with that.

max271October 13, 2017 05:58AM

  plus

zn410October 13, 2017 06:31AM

  Yeah, good reminder...

max274October 13, 2017 08:17AM

  +1 (nm)

zn271October 13, 2017 08:30AM

  I wouldn't go that far. Goff is better then Wentz

GreatRamNTheSky347October 13, 2017 03:40AM

  Re: I wouldn't go that far. Goff is better then Wentz (disagree)

den-the-coach341October 13, 2017 03:44AM

  Did you watch the game last night?

GreatRamNTheSky304October 13, 2017 03:46AM

  Re: Did you watch the game last night?

den-the-coach348October 13, 2017 03:56AM

  Here we go again. Wentz is nothing like Staubach.

max305October 13, 2017 05:55AM

  Re: Here we go again. Wentz is nothing like Staubach.

zn390October 13, 2017 06:34AM

  Good comp.

max301October 13, 2017 08:07AM

  Re: Good comp.

zn297October 13, 2017 08:22AM

  ZN beat me to it

six2stack370October 13, 2017 08:37AM

  I do like Goff though

six2stack280October 13, 2017 08:48AM

  Staubach was better QB and a better athlete

GreatRamNTheSky261October 13, 2017 07:05AM

  Warner to Staubach? Did you see Staubach play?

max265October 13, 2017 08:01AM

  Yes I did and Warner was very much like Staubach

GreatRamNTheSky269October 14, 2017 07:15PM

  Then I have no idea what you were watching...

max254October 15, 2017 06:50AM

  Re: Staubach was better QB and a better athlete

den-the-coach249October 13, 2017 08:50AM

  Staubach was the definition of a "Field General" NM

six2stack336October 13, 2017 08:52AM

  Re: Staubach was better QB and a better athlete

Steve306October 14, 2017 08:03AM

  4 pro bowls

wv ram280October 13, 2017 10:03AM

  a Norm Snead reference?

21Dog287October 13, 2017 04:45AM

  How about Bobby Douglas?

GreatRamNTheSky276October 13, 2017 07:08AM

  Douglass had a cannon......

21Dog291October 13, 2017 08:58AM

  Re: How about Steve Grogan?

den-the-coach391October 13, 2017 09:50AM

  I went with Terry Bradshaw

Los Angeles Lenny245October 13, 2017 08:55AM

  Wentz fumbles a lot........

HighPlainsDrifter291October 13, 2017 12:04PM

  Re: I wouldn't go that far. Goff is better then Wentz (disagree)

The_Zone397October 13, 2017 05:20AM

  Re: I wouldn't go that far. Goff is better then Wentz (disagree)

den-the-coach274October 13, 2017 05:42AM

  Re: I wouldn't go that far. Goff is better then Wentz

GarlicExile324October 13, 2017 05:00AM

  Re: Wentz is so good.....

Steve304October 13, 2017 06:45AM

  Re: no doubt - he is one good looking QB

Speed_Kills306October 13, 2017 07:14AM

  Why can’t both QB’s become outstanding players?

Rams43301October 13, 2017 07:22AM

  +1 nm

PeoriaRa261October 13, 2017 02:39PM

  This was my pick out of that draft but

Los Angeles Lenny331October 13, 2017 08:53AM

  Re: This was my pick out of that draft but

Steve215October 14, 2017 08:31PM

  Re: Wentz is so good.....I DOUBT THAT

BumRap810October 15, 2017 05:17AM

  Good thing they didn't draft Wentz in that case

9er8er267October 15, 2017 07:03AM