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Re: I doubt it

May 22, 2017 10:01AM
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Your point about virtually the entire O roster taking a back step in '16 is a good one, zn.

Gotta give you that much.

As I've posted multiple times before, I think that the Rams have no choice but to give both Tavon and GRob every reasonable opportunity this season to justify their draft status. A low risk, potentially high reward thing.

If any coaching staff can redeem them, it's this one.

But tbh, I'm not terribly optimistic. Both seem to have shortcomings between their ears, if you catch my drift. Not IQ shortcomings, necessarily, but "football smarts/desire to improve" shortcomings. Not coachable solutions, IOW.

I don't agree with that. In this sense.

To me Austin has already justified himself. 2015. But there's also a good chance that McVay may not want to use him that way.

I don't do "draft status." In fact, to be honest, I think it's a pointless endeavor. I don't need GR to "justify his draft status" because that's not a real and objective football criterion. If he pans out as a good ROT in his 4th year, I am not going to keep whining about where he was drafted. A football player is a football player. Once he's picked he has the same standing, to me, as a UDFA.

I never use that kind of thing to bash players.

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You're certainly entitled to your viewpoint about ignoring a player's draft status, zn.

But a lot of us expect a helluva lot more from a #2 overall, or a traded up for #8 overall than from a UDFA. To him to whom much is given, much is expected.

The higher draft status implies higher talent. That just seems beyond obvious to me. So, when a high 1st rounder is a bust, it's a MUCH bigger deal than when a UDFA doesn't make it. It's a gigantic missed opportunity.

I do take your point that once a player is brought in they should have an equal opportunity to earn a starting position. But that's a different topic.

Yeah you articulate very well the problem I am talking about. The "punish with expectations" thing.

I don;'t do that. I don't pay that much attention to it when others do. I don't think it makes any sense. There will always be players who should have been picked lower and there will always be players who should have been picked higher. If they work out that's all I care about. To me that's the only way to do real, and sound, football analysis.

I don't think in terms of armchair quarterbacking/20-20 vision stuff. If the guy can play he can play. If he can't, time to move on.

And this is not what I said--"your point that once a player is brought in they should have an equal opportunity to earn a starting position." What I said was that I don't put much stock if any in the "fans judging a player by where he was picked" game. As I said, if he can play he can play, if he was "picked too high" I generally don't care about that.

Now SHOULD players be picked too high? Well no and that means personnel has to work on adjusting for next draft and getting that right.

BUT once he is a Ram I don't hold draft position against a player and generally lose interest when others do.

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  MMQB: Austin Not A Field Stretching, Downfield WR

RamBill1269May 19, 2017 09:34AM

  Austin Not A Field Stretching, Downfield WR

Anonymous User721May 19, 2017 09:50AM

  Re: Austin Not A Field Stretching, Downfield WR

Classicalwit391May 19, 2017 05:14PM

  Re: You assume Wrong Classicalwit

Anonymous User443May 20, 2017 12:17PM

  you know what they say about when you assume....

Rampage2K-474May 21, 2017 09:38AM

  He's right about OJ Howard

LMU93496May 19, 2017 11:47AM

  big penalties

wv ram442May 19, 2017 12:12PM

  I'd settle for even less...

JamesJM387May 19, 2017 12:19PM

  NFL penalty stats show......

NewMexicoRam334May 20, 2017 12:30PM

  Re: big penalties

reggae300May 20, 2017 12:44PM

  Re: MMQB: Austin Not A Field Stretching, Downfield WR

joram325May 20, 2017 02:08AM

  I don't think we know if he is or isn't.

RockRam357May 20, 2017 02:24AM

  Re: I don't think we know if he is or isn't.

Classicalwit347May 20, 2017 03:47AM

  Re: I don't think we know if he is or isn't.

zn376May 20, 2017 05:27AM

  Its all speculation as usual

Hazlet Hacksaw322May 20, 2017 03:08PM

  certainly I have my own ideas

reggae349May 20, 2017 03:25PM

  Re: certainly I have my own ideas

AlbaNY_Ram340May 21, 2017 01:14AM

  problem is (maybe)

zn278May 21, 2017 05:01AM

  Re: certainly I have my own ideas

Rams43336May 21, 2017 08:06AM

  to an extent sure

zn313May 20, 2017 03:51PM

  Absolutely

Hazlet Hacksaw259May 22, 2017 03:21AM

  Yeah, all speculations..

JamesJM314May 20, 2017 04:02PM

  True or false

reggae271May 20, 2017 05:54PM

  Re: True or false

zn286May 20, 2017 06:33PM

  Yeah i think the Pats would find a way to use him

Hazlet Hacksaw277May 22, 2017 03:24AM

  Re: Yeah i think the Pats would find a way to use him

Rams43285May 22, 2017 06:44AM

  well the Rams did

zn293May 22, 2017 07:44AM

  Has McVay come out and said any of this?

Hazlet Hacksaw405May 22, 2017 08:15AM

  No...I am reading between the lines

zn309May 22, 2017 08:31AM

  Re: well the Rams did

Rams43278May 22, 2017 08:41AM

  I doubt it

zn285May 22, 2017 08:49AM

  Re: I doubt it

Rams43293May 22, 2017 08:59AM

  Re: I doubt it

zn321May 22, 2017 09:15AM

  Re: I doubt it

Rams43314May 22, 2017 09:50AM

  Re: I doubt it

zn457May 22, 2017 10:01AM

  Not the only who thinks he knows

Hazlet Hacksaw277May 23, 2017 04:03AM

  Who cares and frankly he could be and has been here and there

LesBaker318May 21, 2017 11:24AM

  Re: Who cares and frankly he could be and has been here and there

dzrams280May 22, 2017 10:12AM

  Re: He is not a fit for this offense

merlin200May 22, 2017 06:57AM

  Re: He is not a fit for this offense

Rams43320May 22, 2017 08:43AM

  Totally disagree about a "drop mike" post!

Ramgator293May 22, 2017 08:46AM