April 19, 2017 04:55AM
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roman18
I look at one of Fishers decisions as an example of his want to make a better line but fail....IMO choosing Barnes to be his starting center. Not just for one year as a starter by way of injuries but to continue with him the following year. McVay cuts him...he is still out of work...and if he gets a job I don't think it would be as a starter. The demand of playing GRob and at the same time seeing his problems at the position.....McVay comes in and moves him out of the position immediately.....

My point being that although the RAMS have not shown improvement on the field yet with the new additions (yet) they have at LEAST seen and understood some of the problem areas and a LEAST have addressed them IMO very quickly......If Fish were still here how many think that Barnes would still be starting and GRob would still be in the running for LT? I would for 1.

Sometimes injuries are indeed a major problem with line development but IMO the choice of [players has as much if not more to do with it. If you address problems by using inferior parts you may be addressing the problem but not the needs and basis for the problems to be solved....IMO that is how Fisher addressed the situation.....

Barnes played decently well in 2015.

Everyone on the line fell apart in 2016. Not just Barnes. So did Hav, for example, and he played decently well in 2015 also.

Either way, remember the issue---the issue was that somehow McVay is the first coach to take the OL seriously, ie. to address it.

The response to that was that every Rams coach has taken the OL seriously. Which btw strikes me as being plain ordinary common sense.

BUT problems arose for 2 reasons:

Some however either made bad picks or signings

Or saw the OL wiped out by the kind of extensive injuries you don't just shrug off.

Or both.

And we don;t know if Barnes would have recovered in 2017 if a different coach saw him as the kind of center he wanted (which Kromer clearly doesn;t),

Either way it's simply not the case that this is the first Rams coach in a long line of coaches who took the OL seriously. They all did. What we hope instead is that McVay is the first Rams coach in a long line of coaches since Vermeil anyway who BOTH (1) makes effective choices for OL players, and (2) does not suffer massive extensive crippling OL injuries.

And yes we should all hope for both things. Cause otherwise right now, Whitworth and Sullivan at this point in the off-season look just as good (or questionable) as choices as Wells and Long did in their respective off-seasons.

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  Any doubt that McVay is serious about the OL?

Rams431209April 18, 2017 03:02PM

  Re: Any doubt that McVay is serious about the OL?

oldschoolramfan482April 18, 2017 03:08PM

  every Rams coach has demonstrated that

zn385April 18, 2017 03:13PM

  Re: every Rams coach has demonstrated that

Rams43520April 18, 2017 03:43PM

  Re: every Rams coach has demonstrated that

zn326April 18, 2017 04:11PM

  He didn't start the problem, but Fisher sure didn't fix it

promomasterj273April 18, 2017 04:20PM

  yeah he did when injuries permitted

zn350April 18, 2017 04:35PM

  Re: yeah he did when injuries permitted

Rams43255April 18, 2017 05:19PM

  Re: yeah he did when injuries permitted

zn293April 18, 2017 05:39PM

  For zn...

Rams43261April 19, 2017 03:44AM

  for 43---not an argument 43 unless

zn308April 19, 2017 04:37AM

  Re: for 43---not an argument 43 unless

Rams43316April 19, 2017 04:53AM

  Re: for 43---not an argument 43 unless

zn260April 19, 2017 04:57AM

  Re: for 43---not an argument 43 unless

Rams43225April 19, 2017 05:11AM

  Re: for 43---not an argument 43 unless

zn310April 19, 2017 05:22AM

  Re: for 43---not an argument 43 unless

Rams43284April 19, 2017 05:25AM

  Re: here are the facts

Speed_Kills288April 19, 2017 11:10AM

  here's what's being said

zn307April 19, 2017 03:52PM

  Fisher did NOT prioritize the OL early in his Rams tenure..

PaulButcher59216April 19, 2017 05:03AM

  yes he did

zn205April 19, 2017 05:27AM

  Losers make excuses. Winners...overcome adversity

promomasterj233April 19, 2017 08:20AM

  Two different things here

LesBaker366April 19, 2017 02:29PM

  we posters make slogans but history makes facts

zn333April 19, 2017 04:18PM

  Re: Lack of priority was not the issue...

dzrams286April 19, 2017 09:00AM

  I should have been more specific....

PaulButcher59303April 19, 2017 09:49AM

  Re: I should have been more specific....

dzrams217April 19, 2017 10:13AM

  Re: I should have been more specific....

PaulButcher59331April 19, 2017 10:51AM

  missing a huge point

zn383April 19, 2017 03:46PM

  Re: No McVay is filling holes on the oL with bodies...

laram199April 19, 2017 04:02PM

  Re: No McVay is filling holes on the oL with bodies...

zn275April 19, 2017 04:12PM

  Re: That has nothing to do with what I said...

laram243April 19, 2017 04:30PM

  it's a direct response to and disagreement with what you said

zn229April 19, 2017 04:43PM

  Re: Yeah that's even further from the truth...

laram282April 19, 2017 04:48PM

  Re: Yeah that's even further from the truth...

zn267April 19, 2017 05:09PM

  Re: Any doubt that McVay is serious about the OL?

roman18238April 19, 2017 04:09AM

  Re: Any doubt that McVay is serious about the OL?

zn187April 19, 2017 04:55AM

  Re: Missing the point zn........

oldschoolramfan253April 19, 2017 05:17AM

  well actually...you are

zn195April 19, 2017 05:43AM

  Barnes

LMU93311April 19, 2017 05:29AM

  Re: Barnes

zn404April 19, 2017 05:48AM

  I'm getting good vibes about EVERYTHING!

Ramgator231April 19, 2017 04:46AM

  Re: I'm getting good vibes about EVERYTHING!

oldschoolramfan214April 19, 2017 05:19AM

  Re: of course you do

Speed_Kills228April 19, 2017 06:07AM

  Re: of course you do

Rams43287April 19, 2017 06:12AM

  Re: he didn't get it done

Speed_Kills351April 19, 2017 06:24AM

  Re: of course you do

dzrams181April 19, 2017 05:06PM

  so now what

zn277April 19, 2017 09:56PM