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My concerns then and still are...

March 12, 2018 05:37AM
Injury. Small. People are expressing concern about NRC being small...yet not about Joyner who has been as injury prone as Sammy Watkins.

Joyner changed positions. So...I'll give him props. But one season doesn't mean it's fixed. He couldn't stay on the field his first three years as a starter...but more of a nickel back. I didn't have an opinion on Joyner when he was drafted although I was concerned about his size. That is very different that guys like Robinson, Pettis, etc. My opinion Joyner developed as I watched a small player get hurt and not start after being picked at the top of round 2.

Let's see if he stays healthy this year and follows up his first good year.

And by the way, this just follows up my complaint about Snead's drafting. If we have to wait to year 4 before he really contributes as a top of the second round pick, then was it a great pick? I guess maybe. But, we had to tag him this year...what happens next year? If we lose him next year, we had to deal with all the growth years and then watch him walk. Maybe Joyner should have been at safety all along. That was a Fisher call.

But the Rams didn't know what they had either IMO. They moved him to safety because he wasn't working out at CB. And maybe that's a Philips thing. In his first three seasons, Joyner would flash for a couple plays...then be on the bench...often hurt...and often because he hit a guy hard only to hurt himself. The Rams didn't know that Joyner would have the year had...and that threw a huge wrench in the Watkins strategy. While I don't have proof, I would bet large dollars they had no idea they would be using the tag on Joyner.

Since Joyner finally stepped up this year, he really ended up being a developmental player. Snead needs to stop drafting developmental type players at the top to the draft. Those players need immediate contributions.

If Joyner can stay on the field this year and repeat his effort, I'll chalk it up in a very small list of "wrong" category. I'm not 100%...but I'll take my track record.

Most guys who end up being great in this league, show something immediately. Are there exceptions? Certainly. But you don't win Championships having to wait on players to develop in their 4th year.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Joyner moving to safety?

RFIP2147March 29, 2017 07:32AM

  Good. It's where he belongs

promomasterj564March 29, 2017 07:36AM

  Re: Good. It's where he belongs

laram522March 29, 2017 09:06AM

  Re: Good. It's where he belongs

no name427March 29, 2017 01:54PM

  Should've always been there...NM

Flipper336423March 29, 2017 07:36AM

  Re: Should've always been there...NM

alyoshamucci458March 29, 2017 07:43AM

  Re: If you play corner, then you can play safety.

oldschoolramfan775March 29, 2017 09:15AM

  Re: If you play corner, then you can play safety.

CraigMatson424March 29, 2017 09:26AM

  great news and i hope its

joram340March 29, 2017 02:46PM

  Most of us knew where he belonged

joram280January 27, 2018 03:11AM

  Many of us here said he should have stayed at FS when he was drafted (NM)

PaulButcher59368March 29, 2017 09:26AM

  Re: Joyner moving to safety?

Rams43432March 29, 2017 10:58AM

  Wade gets it! (NM)

PaulButcher59327March 29, 2017 11:36AM

  "get Joyner on the field for every snap"

LMU93497March 30, 2017 05:38AM

  Re: That's good

TonyHunter87369March 29, 2017 11:20AM

  Eh....

six2stack380March 29, 2017 01:03PM

  Re: Eh....

alyoshamucci397March 29, 2017 03:11PM

  Re: Eh....

no name632March 29, 2017 04:19PM

  Re: That's good

Classicalwit328March 30, 2017 09:43PM

  I'm with the majority on this

zn460March 29, 2017 11:38AM

  makes Johnson more important?

LMU93383March 29, 2017 12:29PM

  Re: I love Joyner !!!!

oldschoolramfan394March 30, 2017 03:05PM

  Re: makes sense.... now

Speed_Kills358March 30, 2017 06:08PM

  Re: Still need to add 2 more CBs I think

Rampage388March 30, 2017 11:00PM

  Re: Still need to add 2 more CBs I think

Rams43346March 31, 2017 07:46AM

  Re: Still need to add 2 more CBs I think

PHDram334March 31, 2017 09:27AM

  Re: Still need to add 2 more CBs I think

Rampage369March 31, 2017 05:12PM

  Now he can really say he's a starter!

9er8er300March 31, 2017 02:50PM

  Re: Now he can really say he's a starter!

Rams43434March 31, 2017 02:57PM

  Yep, seriously (nm)

9er8er382March 31, 2017 03:03PM

  Re: Yep, seriously (nm)

TonyHunter87427March 31, 2017 06:19PM

  Re: Yep, seriously (nm)

Rams43407March 31, 2017 08:45PM

  Re: Yep, seriously (nm)

TonyHunter87334April 01, 2017 08:29AM

  Re: Yep, seriously (nm)

Rams43332April 01, 2017 08:35AM

  Hype has nothing to do with it

9er8er295April 01, 2017 01:20PM

  Re: Joyner moving to safety?

LA_Ram_#29407March 31, 2017 03:03PM

  Re: Joyner moving to safety?

TonyHunter87460March 31, 2017 07:32PM

  Re: Joyner moving to safety?

LA_Ram_#29291April 02, 2017 10:51AM

  agree

ferragamo79468April 02, 2017 02:08PM

  Another amazing pick by The "Les"ter....

jemach476April 01, 2017 02:12AM

  Re: Another amazing pick by The "Les"ter....

dzrams341April 01, 2017 08:26AM

  Re: Another amazing pick by The "Les"ter....

zn384April 01, 2017 08:43AM

  Re: Another amazing pick by The "Les"ter....

zn284March 11, 2018 08:21PM

  Re: We knew what you meant! No worries! ;) NM

dzrams306March 11, 2018 10:42PM

  Turns Out He was Great Pick

Ramadune412March 11, 2018 07:10PM

  Re: Uh oh, Je....

dzrams432March 11, 2018 07:57PM

  My concerns then and still are...

jemach351March 12, 2018 05:37AM

  Re: Ah, sooo disappointing...

dzrams320March 12, 2018 07:45AM

  I called him...

jemach238March 12, 2018 08:21AM

  Re: I called him...

Rams43238March 12, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: Well, the HOF coach disagrees with you

dzrams380March 12, 2018 08:35AM

  The 2018 season is not far off...

jemach215March 12, 2018 08:59AM

  Re: Moving the goal posts again

dzrams322March 12, 2018 09:55AM

  Not sure what you're looking for...

jemach245March 12, 2018 12:03PM

  Wow, you guys are awesome!

RamUK362March 12, 2018 05:38AM

  naw

zn293March 12, 2018 05:49AM

  Yep, no doubt....

PaulButcher59416March 12, 2018 06:22AM