Just not going to win many games in the NFL when that happens. I'll bet the win % in games when that happens is 5-10%.

I'm with you that the running game was the best it's been so far this year. Not great but best it's been. Signs of life.

Personally if you're going to gamble I'd have gone for it on 4th down from the Bills 5 or whatever down 23-16 vs. taking the FG instead of that fake punt. I'm not a fan of ever fake punting inside your own 40.

I also agree that they're still well positioned for a possible 4-3 or even 5-2 start at the bye. I would guess that 2 of the 3 DL are back @DET but hoping Johnson's injury isn't bad.