Re: Overall Snead has been just fine...

So your complaint in essence comes down to giving up a 5th? Trading a 5th, which already has a low hit rate, is what takes you from living with the pick to wanting to throw bricks?

I don't see it. I can see disliking undersized players but I think you're overvaluing low round draft picks.

For example, the Rams really loved Donald and he is undersized. IF they felt they needed to trade up one or two spots for him and had the opportunity to do so for a 5th round pick, would anyone care?

If we're not counting Joyner as a success, then we need to define what a success is. He's started every year for this team and has been at least average at the nickel position. Normally, starting is considered a hit in regard to a draft pick.

It doesn't matter much what we're debating when the debate is somewhat silly.

But you are right, it is subjective. IMO, a reasonable subjective view is that Joyner is a hit which brings the 2nd round success rate to 60%.