August 15, 2016 03:27PM
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Ram Fan Teacher
9er,

I would love to argue your point about acquiring talent but I would be wrong when we look at the results. I can't argue with that and you're correct even if I don't want to believe it moody smiley

Would you say that there are better players on the team now than with Spags or Linehan? That has to be obvious.

So would you say that the reason for the results is Fisher and Co. in your opinion? Obviously yes.

It's an interesting question. Harder to compare with Linehan because of the years that passed between him and Fisher, but easier with Spags. The first thing I think you have to look at is that the talent that contributed the most to Fisher's first 7-8-1 season was largely already on the roster when he and Snead arrived. It could be argued that Spags simply wasn't given enough time, though I wouldn't make that argument. I think it was pretty obvious he needed to go when he did.

It could also be argued that Fisher got the benefit of Quinn coming into his own in his 2nd season and combining with Long for a nice DE tandem, Bradford staying healthy for a full season and with a couple seasons of seasoning under his belt and a couple short term improvements on defense added in Hayes, Dunbar and Finnegan. But the bottom line is, whatever upgrades in health and talent and coaching that occurred between the 2011 and 2012 seasons appears to have gone dormant since that time. You do have to leave room for random variance when it comes to single season results or the fluctuation that can occur from one season to another, i.e small sample sizes, that may not be entirely attributable to the brain-trust. However, when you have 4 full years of data and consistent results, it all but excludes that as a meaningful contributor in the analysis.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Why is Fisher getting an extension?

DomerRam1269August 14, 2016 10:39PM

  Snead is Fisher

9er8er549August 15, 2016 10:06AM

  Re: Snead is Fisher

SoCalRAMatic512August 15, 2016 12:42PM

  Re: Snead is Fisher

9er8er432August 15, 2016 02:32PM

  Re: Snead is Fisher

Rams43462August 15, 2016 12:50PM

  what does the record say?

TonyHunter87494August 15, 2016 01:20PM

  Used the talent well, no.

ArizonaRamFan489August 15, 2016 01:39PM

  Fisher admitted it in Hard Knocks..

sstrams714August 15, 2016 01:58PM

  Good talent performs

9er8er637August 15, 2016 02:16PM

  That's great info 9er8er..

sstrams587August 15, 2016 02:30PM

  Re: I could not agree more...NM.

laram534August 15, 2016 03:59PM

  Good talent performs...but not if an ACL blows out

wv ram448August 16, 2016 05:00AM

  You use that jinx invoking acronym far too often...

JamesJM537August 16, 2016 05:16AM

  acl jinx...

wv ram455August 16, 2016 07:05AM

  I'll sign the petition....

JamesJM707August 16, 2016 07:14AM

  moving on....

wv ram433August 16, 2016 07:37AM

  That's not useful context in this situation

9er8er439August 16, 2016 05:41PM

  competent or incompetent?

wv ram438August 18, 2016 02:03AM

  It pains me to reference the Patriots

moklerman508August 18, 2016 02:54AM

  Belichick

wv ram434August 18, 2016 03:34AM

  the chin

moklerman476August 18, 2016 10:17AM

  the billionaire

wv ram592August 18, 2016 10:22AM

  Re: the billionaire

moklerman440August 18, 2016 10:47AM

  'game has passed him by'

wv ram426August 18, 2016 11:03AM

  is it a passing league now?

zn528August 18, 2016 11:25AM

  damn the stats, man

wv ram527August 18, 2016 12:05PM

  Re: damn the stats, man

zn444August 18, 2016 12:54PM

  Cardinals Patriots Steelers

Rams_81447August 18, 2016 03:23PM

  It is irrefutably a passing league now

9er8er454August 18, 2016 07:06PM

  that's all just true and obvious and doesn't address the point

zn445August 18, 2016 07:24PM

  The point plain and simply

9er8er413August 18, 2016 08:05PM

  rays of sunshine

wv ram391August 19, 2016 01:34AM

  Re: rays of sunshine

zn376August 19, 2016 02:30AM

  year five

wv ram325August 19, 2016 02:56AM

  Re: year five

zn480August 19, 2016 03:14AM

  Well, yeah...

JamesJM458August 16, 2016 05:12AM

  Re: Good talent performs

AlbaNY_Ram580August 16, 2016 08:11AM

  These QBs will always play better elsewhere

Rams_81546August 16, 2016 05:53PM

  10-12-1

9er8er433August 16, 2016 06:33PM

  Are you saying...

Suh-weet!435August 16, 2016 03:43PM

  Re: Are you saying...

9er8er444August 16, 2016 05:45PM

  Not a good argument, but okay

Suh-weet!520August 16, 2016 07:16PM

  Nothing can make sense of that

9er8er430August 17, 2016 07:52PM

  Hoo brother

Suh-weet!516August 18, 2016 11:54AM

  Look at Carson Palmer

Rams_81460August 18, 2016 03:26PM

  Individual vs. aggregate talent

9er8er448August 18, 2016 06:07PM

  Re: Hoo brother

9er8er408August 18, 2016 05:49PM

  No truer statement than...

Guard581August 15, 2016 02:20PM

  Re: No truer statement than...

reggae507August 17, 2016 09:41PM

  Re: Snead is Fisher

9er8er560August 15, 2016 02:18PM

  Re: Snead is Fisher

Ram Fan Teacher729August 15, 2016 02:29PM

  Re: Snead is Fisher

9er8er459August 15, 2016 03:27PM

  Re: Snead is Fisher

Rams43458August 15, 2016 02:40PM

  The problem

9er8er550August 15, 2016 03:13PM

  Why is it assumed the team is 'stocked with talent'

promomasterj492August 18, 2016 12:13PM

  I agree

six2stack477August 18, 2016 04:54PM

  Re: Snead is Fisher

bigjimram21437August 15, 2016 08:09PM

  Re: Snead is Fisher

9er8er424August 16, 2016 05:00PM

  I assumed this would happen during Hardknocks

BigGame81548August 16, 2016 04:33PM

  So cynical

9er8er493August 16, 2016 05:24PM

  Re: So cynical

mikeguman453August 16, 2016 05:36PM

  or he could take a hands off approach on offense

Rams_81444August 16, 2016 06:00PM

  I agree 81

ferragamo79425August 16, 2016 07:21PM

  Re: I agree 81

9er8er466August 18, 2016 08:28PM

  Re: Why is Fisher getting an extension?

reggae485August 17, 2016 08:37PM

  Too bad we aren't meaning hair extention S! nm

jemach704August 18, 2016 09:40AM

  yes a mullet

Atlantic Ram432August 18, 2016 07:07PM