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January 07, 2024 06:09AM
As far as historical precedent a similar thing happened with Austen Corbett who looked like a bust in Cleveland was reborn with Rams earning him a big contract which rams did not match.

Of course, Corbett wasn't as dominant but I think the rams realize that until they got Dotson they wasted time and draft capital (looking at you Bruss) trying to plug that hole.

I think we re-sign him.

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alyoshamucci
This is not a normal thing that happened ...

I cannot remember how many times across the league a throw away trade for a late rounder yielded something like this. There have been low round trades that turned a player's career around (Randy Moss), but I can't remember a non starter on one team turning into a high caliber, pro bowl worthy player at his position for a low pick.

The numbers that are floating around for him right now seem kinda nuts ... and maybe they are a bit inflated ... maybe they might not be that high ...
For the purposes of this exercise, I'm going to assume they're accurate. 16-17 mil per for four years. Making him one of the top paid at his position.

I'm going to do a list of reasons we shouldn't pay that, then see if I can talk myself into it.

1) Dude, he's a Guard. You can't be serious.
2) Maybe he'll stop playing well after he's paid.

2 is not really serious, but I figured I'd list it so there wasn't just 1.

So ... reason #1 is going to take all the focus ... let's see if we can make #1 irrelevant.

1) We have 50+ million in cap space. That's enough for either a CB or Edge of top caliber ... Dotson ... and "likely" bringing back Spoon and Demarcus.

2) Since we're shopping this year, we're unlikely to get a comp pick for him. We get nothing.

3) Matt Stafford had a pro bowl year behind this O line.

4) Kyren Williams also did. Changing it might be the dumbest thing we could do.

5) As of now, we have 3 players aging through the last years of big contracts. There won't be changes, unless they retire ... so we can count on those being steady. AD, Matt, Kupp.

6) We have gotten so much out of our rookies, that we know that big holes in the front 7 and WR room are filled with players we get on the cheap for 3 years. This is a big deal, likely the biggest.

7) OT, the premium position on the line, is not going to need $ spent on it this year at the very least, and given draft quality this and next year, we could fill that position with a player who would play Dotson's contract out on a rookie contract, meaning that as per normal, we're only "really" paying 2 people o the O line for the forseeable future ... and that's IF we pay Dotson.

8) Given how Matt likes to punch DT helmets, I'm getting more focused on the interior of the line.

9) 1st and goal from inside the five is almost a sure thing.

10) Think about total O line cost. When we won the ring, it was near 30. But mostly Whit and Havs. If you're not paying big money to 3, you can afford to splurge on two. The hope is that the other 3 are made strong by those two and that you have talent on rookie contracts.

11) We are usually paying 2 WRs. Not next year in all likelihood.


In the end, I think this draft class has given us an opportunity to spend money to preserve a highly productive unit ... keeping it intact.

Questions and comments welcome.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  The curious case of Kevin Dotson ...

alyoshamucci537January 06, 2024 08:32AM

  Resigning him is a must

Stafford9116January 06, 2024 08:47AM

  I agree with all of that...

NewMexicoRam94January 06, 2024 09:02AM

  The curious case of Kevin Dotson. Extend Dotson yesterday

Florida_Ram92January 06, 2024 10:57AM

  Re: The curious case of Kevin Dotson. Extend Dotson yesterday

Stafford974January 06, 2024 11:29AM

  Re: The curious case of Kevin Dotson ... this

Rams_7870January 06, 2024 11:35AM

  and turn to the draft for OL and other needs in this instance???

ferragamo79104January 06, 2024 12:06PM

  Re: Overall not very.......

Rams_7870January 06, 2024 12:18PM

  Re: Overall not very.......

Old Goat40January 07, 2024 07:05AM

  Re: and turn to the draft for OL and other needs in this instance???

alyoshamucci91January 06, 2024 12:21PM

  Re: Edge...blue chips

Rams_7842January 06, 2024 05:00PM

  I hate to be a broken record, but Coach Wendell’s contributions are not being fully appreciated, in my opinion.

Rams4347January 06, 2024 05:14PM

  Re: I hate to be a broken record, but Coach Wendell’s contributions are not being fully appreciated, in my opinion.

kw1342January 06, 2024 05:18PM

  Re: I hate to be a broken record, but Coach Wendell’s contributions are not being fully appreciated, in my opinion.

Rams4366January 06, 2024 05:20PM

  Re: I hate to be a broken record, but Coach Wendell’s contributions are not being fully appreciated, in my opinion.

AlbaNY_Ram30January 07, 2024 03:56AM

  Re: I hate to be a broken record, but Coach Wendell’s contributions are not being fully appreciated, in my opinion.

RamsDynasty39January 07, 2024 04:28AM

  Exactly!!

AlbaNY_Ram34January 07, 2024 04:57AM

  Re: I hate to be a broken record, but Coach Wendell’s contributions are not being fully appreciated, in my opinion.

Rams4336January 07, 2024 04:56AM

  Re: I Agree 100%

AlbaNY_Ram32January 07, 2024 04:59AM

  Re: I Agree 100%

Rams4333January 07, 2024 05:02AM

  Re: I Agree 100%

AlbaNY_Ram27January 07, 2024 05:32AM

  Re: I Agree 100%

Rams4328January 07, 2024 05:38AM

  Don't discount Munchak either

stlramz33January 07, 2024 06:13AM

  How well did coach Wendell do before Dotson was inserted into the line up?

Stafford937January 07, 2024 06:27AM

  Re: How well did coach Wendell do before Dotson was inserted into the line up?

Rams4340January 07, 2024 06:57AM

  There is a difference between playing well and dominating

Stafford937January 07, 2024 07:20AM

  Re: A couple of points.....

Rams_7834January 07, 2024 08:33AM

  The reason why our defense is having a good year

Stafford925January 07, 2024 09:13AM

  Tough decision

dodgerram63January 07, 2024 12:58AM

  I'd bet the farm Rams have already decided on this

RockRam73January 07, 2024 02:17AM

  Re: I'd bet the farm Rams have already decided on this

Rams4345January 07, 2024 04:59AM

  Re: I'd bet the farm Rams have already decided on this

AlbaNY_Ram49January 07, 2024 05:25AM

  Re: I'd bet the farm Rams have already decided on this

Rams4346January 07, 2024 05:31AM

  Re: I'd bet the farm Rams have already decided on this

AlbaNY_Ram54January 07, 2024 05:42AM

  Re: I'd bet the farm Rams have already decided on this

Rams4350January 07, 2024 06:08AM

  Yep. It's all about the guaranteed money

RockRam43January 07, 2024 05:41AM

  Re: This ^^^....+++

Rams_7854January 07, 2024 06:09AM

  Danger of bad contracts

David Deacon69January 07, 2024 06:54AM

  Great discussion

stlramz72January 07, 2024 06:09AM

  Re: Great discussion

Rams4355January 07, 2024 07:04AM

  Re: Yes it has.....

Rams_7843January 07, 2024 08:33AM