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Re: Good list.

February 10, 2019 07:56AM
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Speed_Kills
I would put him at the bottom of that second group if they were actual rankings.

I would but Big Ben in that 1st group for sure.

I think what I have to keep telling myself is that he is young. My worry is that some of the bad things we see aren’t a product of maturity

I appreciate the response it helps me get an idea of where others actually slot him.

Goff is often compared to Ryan stylistically. I think Ryan is better mentally and mechanically when things are breaking down


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LMU93
I have trouble ordering guys exactly so I would just say this:





Ahead of Goff
Brees
Brady
Mahomes
Wilson (can do more with less)
Luck
Rodgers

Around the same:
Rivers
Watson
Roethlisberger (at this point in his career)
Wentz
Ryan

To me it's tough to say which of those 2nd five he's better or worse- I just see him right in the same ballpark. So I guess based on this I see him as at best 7th and at worst 12th? So I split it down the middle and say around 9th. If that makes sense. Just how I see him through 3 years.

As he should be....Ryan has been around a lot longer....as has most of that list has.

Goff is 24 years old, that's young ...heck I think Wentz is already like 26?


This is a great reference for seeing how good Goff was actually this year as he is in top 10 in most of these stats and top 5 in most of the biggies(rating, TD, YPC, YPA, YPG, wins)

[www.pro-football-reference.com]
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  Vikings Jared Goff v Bears/Pats Jared Goff

Speed_Kills461February 08, 2019 05:53PM

  completely disagree

zn174February 08, 2019 06:14PM

  Re:Goff is the SAME...the circumstances changed--Peyton Manning Comp

Steve94February 08, 2019 11:07PM

  Re: Good points both of you

Speed_Kills84February 09, 2019 04:49AM

  Re: Good points both of you

zn65February 09, 2019 06:17AM

  Facts are not relevant

waterfield42February 09, 2019 09:17AM

  Re: sort of like Gurley being too hurt to contribute

Speed_Kills39February 09, 2019 10:46AM

  I think that's true, he was too hurt to play 100%

zn32February 09, 2019 11:48AM

  we're approaching this differently W

zn38February 09, 2019 11:49AM

  Re: Good points both of you

RamsFanSinceLA25February 12, 2019 07:32AM

  not many QBs can do well when they are one dimensional

ferragamo7965February 08, 2019 06:25PM

  Re: Vikings Jared Goff v Bears/Pats Jared Goff Attachments

Ram4993February 08, 2019 06:31PM

  Michael Irvin on Inside the NFL

RamBill122February 08, 2019 07:07PM

  Fantastic breakdown, thanks

Ram4973February 08, 2019 07:27PM

  Re: Michael Irvin on Inside the NFL

zn104February 08, 2019 08:50PM

  Yep cant do that if Kupp is there

Hazlet Hacksaw51February 09, 2019 05:09AM

  If cooks makes those catches

PHDram64February 09, 2019 04:25AM

  Exactly

Ram4944February 09, 2019 08:07AM

  Re: Cooks

Speed_Kills54February 09, 2019 04:55AM

  I don’t think he’s top 10.......

Rampage2K-113February 08, 2019 07:53PM

  Re: top 5?

Speed_Kills67February 09, 2019 05:10AM

  Re: top 5?

Rams4356February 09, 2019 06:04AM

  Re: it’s ok 43 we can disagree on where he slots

Speed_Kills39February 09, 2019 08:18AM

  Re: it’s ok 43 we can disagree on where he slots

Rams4338February 09, 2019 08:23AM

  Re: Yup

Speed_Kills27February 09, 2019 08:34AM

  no way do I put Cam Newton

ferragamo7938February 09, 2019 07:10AM

  Re: ok but I bet you more people

Speed_Kills32February 09, 2019 08:32AM

  we will have a better idea

ferragamo7928February 09, 2019 02:54PM

  Re: yeah its killing me

Speed_Kills28February 09, 2019 05:00PM

  Re: we will have a better idea

AlbaNY_Ram23February 10, 2019 04:58AM

  Re: top 5? Why not? NFL.com has him 5th ranked also....

Rampage2K-59February 09, 2019 08:44AM

  Re: top 5? Why not? NFL.com has him 5th ranked also....

Rams4333February 09, 2019 09:03AM

  Re: top 5? Why not? NFL.com has him 5th ranked also....

Rampage2K-36February 09, 2019 09:18AM

  This might make you feel better.......Tom Brady's 7 worst games

Rampage2K-50February 09, 2019 09:21AM

  Re: top 5?

dzrams33February 09, 2019 09:34AM

  I rate him top 8- top 10 at worst

LMU9332February 09, 2019 01:15PM

  Re: I rate him top 8- top 10 at worst

Speed_Kills33February 09, 2019 05:02PM

  I'll be a little bit vague here...

LMU9356February 10, 2019 04:10AM

  Re: I'll be a little bit vague here...

zn30February 10, 2019 05:54AM

  Re: Good list.

Speed_Kills32February 10, 2019 06:50AM

  Re: Good list.

Rampage2K-39February 10, 2019 07:56AM

  Re: Good list.

dzrams24February 10, 2019 08:57AM

  Ryan did have an advantage early

zn28February 10, 2019 09:22AM

  Re: Idk

Speed_Kills27February 10, 2019 09:41AM

  Re: Idk

zn29February 10, 2019 10:12AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

Speed_Kills32February 10, 2019 10:57AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

dzrams27February 10, 2019 11:15AM

  Re: Thx dz. now we are talking

Speed_Kills28February 10, 2019 11:58AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

zn23February 10, 2019 11:39AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

dzrams24February 10, 2019 12:29PM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

zn24February 10, 2019 01:15PM

  Re: Idk

GroundPounder39February 10, 2019 04:06PM

  Re: Idk

zn29February 10, 2019 04:24PM

  Re: Idk

GroundPounder31February 10, 2019 05:07PM

  Re: Idk

zn30February 10, 2019 05:14PM

  Re: Idk

Rams4317February 11, 2019 07:30AM

  Goff has a winning record against your list of QBs

JoeMad25February 12, 2019 07:56AM

  top 10 QB with McVay Gurley Kupp

Rams_8152February 09, 2019 12:33PM

  Goff v Vikings highlights

Speed_Kills39February 10, 2019 07:27AM

  Step back for a while

max66February 10, 2019 11:59AM

  Re: Step back for a while

Rampage2K-42February 10, 2019 03:04PM

  Re: good stuff max

Speed_Kills34February 11, 2019 06:11AM

  Re: good stuff max

Rams4328February 11, 2019 07:36AM

  Speed....

zn33February 12, 2019 02:36PM

  I dunno Speed

max24February 12, 2019 01:06PM