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completely disagree

February 08, 2019 06:14PM
Remember how the board was buzzing after that Vikings TNF game?

Man Goff was on fire...those touchdown passes were spectacular... the Vikings defense had nothing for the Rams that night

Gurley was mostly a non factor in the run game. Its like McVay had studied the Vikings all offseason and just leveled that defense

It was truly a Warneresque type game...

Flash forward to games against the Lions, Bears, Eagles, and the Patriots - He played so poorly and got no help from McVay or his oline

The Bears game was a complete ambush offensively. It was cold, the Rams couldn't run Gurley played injured and there was no Malcolm Brown. It was a mess. Gurley was hurt against the Lions too. I remember saying it at the time...but he came through with a 120 yards

I don't trust Goff... waaay too many wild swings. I hate that I'm saying that but its where I am with him. Hes... ok. I thought he was a top 10 QB but now I don't.

People had the same complaints about Goff after the 2017 Vikes game.

What do you think the difference is between the 2017 Vikes game and the 2018 Vikes game?

That Goff suddenly got better? Partly but it wasn't even the major thing. The major thing was McVay learned from the 2017 game and attacked the Vikes defense differently.

This year the bad games you list have several things in common, one of which was that McVay was going up against savvy veteran defensive coaches who knew how to mess his offense up (Fangio, Patricia, Schwartz, and BB ). The OL did not hold up in those games either, they were assaulted.

It was all similar to the 2017 Vikes games.

I would say Goff played exactly the way you would expect a 3rd year qb to play who was under THAT MUCH pressure in those games while the offense failed to adjust to things that would work.

But again that's exactly the way it was in the 2017 Vikes game. And after that game people expressed their doubts too.

Think about the differences between the 2017 and 2018 Vikes game. It was not simply that Goff was a year more experienced in 2018. Other things changed too.

I expect all of that to continue.

I have no doubts at all about that.


Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/08/2019 06:17PM by zn.

  Vikings Jared Goff v Bears/Pats Jared Goff

Speed_Kills520February 08, 2019 05:53PM

  completely disagree

zn222February 08, 2019 06:14PM

  Re:Goff is the SAME...the circumstances changed--Peyton Manning Comp

Steve128February 08, 2019 11:07PM

  Re: Good points both of you

Speed_Kills132February 09, 2019 04:49AM

  Re: Good points both of you

zn99February 09, 2019 06:17AM

  Facts are not relevant

waterfield75February 09, 2019 09:17AM

  Re: sort of like Gurley being too hurt to contribute

Speed_Kills86February 09, 2019 10:46AM

  I think that's true, he was too hurt to play 100%

zn49February 09, 2019 11:48AM

  we're approaching this differently W

zn78February 09, 2019 11:49AM

  Re: Good points both of you

RamsFanSinceLA45February 12, 2019 07:32AM

  not many QBs can do well when they are one dimensional

ferragamo79101February 08, 2019 06:25PM

  Re: Vikings Jared Goff v Bears/Pats Jared Goff Attachments

Ram49141February 08, 2019 06:31PM

  Michael Irvin on Inside the NFL

RamBill168February 08, 2019 07:07PM

  Fantastic breakdown, thanks

Ram49111February 08, 2019 07:27PM

  Re: Michael Irvin on Inside the NFL

zn157February 08, 2019 08:50PM

  Yep cant do that if Kupp is there

Hazlet Hacksaw93February 09, 2019 05:09AM

  If cooks makes those catches

PHDram106February 09, 2019 04:25AM


Ram4983February 09, 2019 08:07AM

  Re: Cooks

Speed_Kills128February 09, 2019 04:55AM

  I don’t think he’s top 10.......

Rampage2K-158February 08, 2019 07:53PM

  Re: top 5?

Speed_Kills105February 09, 2019 05:10AM

  Re: top 5?

Rams4373February 09, 2019 06:04AM

  Re: it’s ok 43 we can disagree on where he slots

Speed_Kills56February 09, 2019 08:18AM

  Re: it’s ok 43 we can disagree on where he slots

Rams4353February 09, 2019 08:23AM

  Re: Yup

Speed_Kills50February 09, 2019 08:34AM

  no way do I put Cam Newton

ferragamo7955February 09, 2019 07:10AM

  Re: ok but I bet you more people

Speed_Kills48February 09, 2019 08:32AM

  we will have a better idea

ferragamo7944February 09, 2019 02:54PM

  Re: yeah its killing me

Speed_Kills44February 09, 2019 05:00PM

  Re: we will have a better idea

AlbaNY_Ram43February 10, 2019 04:58AM

  Re: top 5? Why not? NFL.com has him 5th ranked also....

Rampage2K-100February 09, 2019 08:44AM

  Re: top 5? Why not? NFL.com has him 5th ranked also....

Rams4351February 09, 2019 09:03AM

  Re: top 5? Why not? NFL.com has him 5th ranked also....

Rampage2K-61February 09, 2019 09:18AM

  This might make you feel better.......Tom Brady's 7 worst games

Rampage2K-84February 09, 2019 09:21AM

  Re: top 5?

dzrams49February 09, 2019 09:34AM

  I rate him top 8- top 10 at worst

LMU9349February 09, 2019 01:15PM

  Re: I rate him top 8- top 10 at worst

Speed_Kills50February 09, 2019 05:02PM

  I'll be a little bit vague here...

LMU93123February 10, 2019 04:10AM

  Re: I'll be a little bit vague here...

zn45February 10, 2019 05:54AM

  Re: Good list.

Speed_Kills51February 10, 2019 06:50AM

  Re: Good list.

Rampage2K-67February 10, 2019 07:56AM

  Re: Good list.

dzrams43February 10, 2019 08:57AM

  Ryan did have an advantage early

zn41February 10, 2019 09:22AM

  Re: Idk

Speed_Kills50February 10, 2019 09:41AM

  Re: Idk

zn68February 10, 2019 10:12AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

Speed_Kills54February 10, 2019 10:57AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

dzrams42February 10, 2019 11:15AM

  Re: Thx dz. now we are talking

Speed_Kills51February 10, 2019 11:58AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

zn39February 10, 2019 11:39AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

dzrams40February 10, 2019 12:29PM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

zn39February 10, 2019 01:15PM

  Re: Idk

GroundPounder71February 10, 2019 04:06PM

  Re: Idk

zn58February 10, 2019 04:24PM

  Re: Idk

GroundPounder46February 10, 2019 05:07PM

  Re: Idk

zn47February 10, 2019 05:14PM

  Re: Idk

Rams4347February 11, 2019 07:30AM

  Goff has a winning record against your list of QBs

JoeMad67February 12, 2019 07:56AM

  top 10 QB with McVay Gurley Kupp

Rams_81102February 09, 2019 12:33PM

  Goff v Vikings highlights

Speed_Kills54February 10, 2019 07:27AM

  Step back for a while

max88February 10, 2019 11:59AM

  Re: Step back for a while

Rampage2K-73February 10, 2019 03:04PM

  Re: good stuff max

Speed_Kills51February 11, 2019 06:11AM

  Re: good stuff max

Rams4343February 11, 2019 07:36AM


zn58February 12, 2019 02:36PM

  I dunno Speed

max44February 12, 2019 01:06PM