If he's healthy, I think there is little chance of him being cut. I definitely wouldn't characterize him as a long shot.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram "Demoff takes a hard stance on Aaron Donald..." Can you link an article that describes the stance Demoff is taking with AD? "If we offered AD the money he is offering this year, last year he would be under contract." What did Demoff offer last year? And what is he offering this year? "Thank god Snead stepped in and bailed him out on Tree and Austinby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram "... demands that to this point the Rams are not willing to pay" That's an assumption. It's quite possible that Donald has said that he wants to wait until Mack signs and that the Rams are fine with that. Donald's hold out last year cost him one year towards his becoming an unrestricted free agent. Now, he is forced to report by Aug. 7 or he won't become a UFA.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam Better to keep several really good players than to lose one great HOF player....IF that player is a non-QB. I disagree with this philosophy. I think one ultra elite player is worth more than a couple of really good players in the same way I think a QB is worth several players at other positions.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams I'd imagine that's normal for a GM because the players are kinda like their babies. They invest so much of themselves into finding and vetting them that they have to feel a huge ownership stake in each choice. So I agree with you. I don't think it's abnormal or being a credit hog to speak the way he does. My impression is, not everyone does it. IE talk like that. Thatby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax QuoteSpeed_Kills In 2012, the St. Louis Rams gave Snead the GM job, handed him the keys to the drafting, the releasing, the hiring and the firing. The Rams had already hired coach Jeff Fisher. Their club was a group of bass guitars in search of a lead singer. As recently as 2016, people wondered if Snead could hang on. Find me a GM in the NFL that doesn't talk like he is responsibleby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotedzrams If the Rams extended AD, they would turn the tables and gain the leverage on Cooks. As it is, if they both became free agents, everyone knows we're not using the franchise tag on Cooks. Point taken, dz. And so very, very true. Extending AD opens lots of other doors. It's part of the reason why I hope they get AD locked up and skip the hardcore haggling over aby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
If the Rams extended AD, they would turn the tables and gain the leverage on Cooks. As it is, if they both became free agents, everyone knows we're not using the franchise tag on Cooks.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram I didnt say it was a diss. I said it's a careless statement that leaves open the possibility of many intepretations which once again is why the reporter wrote the story and why we are discussing it. You're right. You didn't expressly say diss. You just called it an insult and used the phrase dumb ass to describe it/him. I don't see those either. It's a huge stretch IMO to takby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram Just telling how I read it. In fact I was surprised that a professional athlete would be so careless with his words regarding a teammate. What's so careless about it? What if a young QB he could grow with was his highest priority after the money of course? When someone asks, "why did you sign with KC?", what's he supposed to say, "I signed for the boatload of mby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram I agree 100%! On the same token if Donald is asking for $28M that ain't gonna work either. (And if that's the case I would have a hard time blaming Demoff for the impasse.). The Rams don't seem to mind paying top dollar for players. They might have had a hard time distinguishing top talent at times but they have not looked cheap. Austin, Ogletree, TruJo, and Joyner (to nby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamadune Quotemax If they don't sign Donald before the season starts then thats a big black mark on Demoff, no excuses. He must get it done, I don't care how, and I don't care what his reasons are if he doesn't get it done. You've got the DPOY and arguably the best defensive player in the NFL, a likely HOF DT, and one of the greatest players in Rams history. Demoff has a month to gby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 I subscribe to the “elite first” strategy, too, dz, but only up to a point. If we can extend AD eventually for $22 million as opposed to $24-25 quickly by utilizing a firm negotiating posture, then that’s a good thing, right? Ok, great! Now I understand what course of action you would like them to take. You prefer more of the play hardball if you must negotiation posture, anby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotedzrams QuoteRams43 Look, I want to sign both, myself. But we mustn’t forget that we will have other studs that we will really want (and need) to extend, too. You keep repeating yourself too. We all know that some other studs may have to be let go for cap management purposes. So assuming Donald requires an exorbitant sum, to the degree that it's as zn says where one or twoby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Look, I want to sign both, myself. But we mustn’t forget that we will have other studs that we will really want (and need) to extend, too. You keep repeating yourself too. We all know that some other studs may have to be let go for cap management purposes. So assuming Donald requires an exorbitant sum, to the degree that it's as zn says where one or two fewer "studs"by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Where would you rank Joyner's performance last year amoung FS? (last year Only)by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
We were mad for nothing when we saw Jimmy G. on the list? Well I'll be... Gotta say though, #38 is pretty high. Good to see that his peers think of him that highly.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 We could win without AD, dz. Same thing for Gurley. Not as easily and maybe not quite as often, but we would win games. The other 21 starters plus the ST are that good. But if we lose Goff, I think we’re toast for the playoffs. I believe that the AD mania has become overblown, tbh. I agree we could "win" without AD or Gurley. For that matter, we could win wiby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn QuoteSunTzu_vs_Camus Quotezn That means he's both drawing attention which frees up others AND making plays anyway, at a higher rate than anyone else. That's invaluable. (in fact it's kind of freaky.) And we have seen the effects of it too---this is not just an "on paper:" thing. Last year they basically had no one rushing from the outside (especially with Quinn playing subpar moby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Let’s put this issue to the test, dz. Here’s my hypothetical question. If you were asked to choose a player that you know would suffer a season ending injury, which one would you choose between AD and Goff? I’ll wait... I'd take Goff over AD. But I'd take AD over some QB's in the league. And here's the real point on your hypothetical: if either Goff or AD suffered an earlyby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotedzrams Quote3030 All reasons and excuses aside, deep down, I suspect you're right. If history is any indication, we sign guys we want to keep before we get to this point (Brockers, Tavon, Foles, Ogletree, Barron) and we let guys who we don't want, but the fans assume we would want, walk: Trujo, Janoris, McLeod, Watkins. That would suggest Joyner is gone as well. (You'd tby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 You are preaching to the choir when you describe AD as a phenomenal player, Sun. We all know that he is. But the question for the Rams is “How much can we afford to pay AD and still be able to afford Gurley, Goff, Cooks, Peters, and Joyner down the road? And those are just our elite type players coming up quickly. There are other valuable contributors without whom we may notby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quote3030 All reasons and excuses aside, deep down, I suspect you're right. If history is any indication, we sign guys we want to keep before we get to this point (Brockers, Tavon, Foles, Ogletree, Barron) and we let guys who we don't want, but the fans assume we would want, walk: Trujo, Janoris, McLeod, Watkins. That would suggest Joyner is gone as well. (You'd think we would have done a coby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 Otherwise Barron, Wilson, Littleton, Kiser, Ebukam, Longacre and Okoronkwo are really the 7 guys I think that will be their main ILB/OLB rotation. Judging by first team reps one month into OTA's, you probably have to add Lawler as one of their main guys in the rotation. I agree with all of the other names. Oko might end up being the last guy though because he's gonna be behind duby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
That's why he was a 7th round draft pick. He's a subpar athlete. His low draft status definitely wan't because he lacked production. PFF ranked him very high because he was extremely productive in college. Sometimes players have other things that make up for their athletic deficiencies. Did you know Michael Bennet ran a 5.13 40 at the Combine and went undrafted? That's very slow too.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach Based on Suh's Dolphin contract and Von Miller's contract, it is obvious it's $20 million plus. The question is how much plus? So maybe the shock is the plus. I agree with you and zn that it doesn't make sense. They should of known what he would cost. However, since the Suh and Von Miller contracts, which were both an eternity ago in NFL years, no contracts have even approacby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I keep hearing good things about this guy. And it appears he's gotten reps with the 1's a few times. Could he be one of the starters at OLB? With Oko out there is opportunity. He was super productive in college, just lacked athleticism. He may be a guy who can outplay his draft status.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 I suspect that the Rams would be all too happy to pay AD the $20 million+ that Cynthia suggests. So what’s the hold-up? Gotta be either poison pill clauses and/or AD is demanding even more money than Cynthia is suggesting. While we really don't know what the hold-up is, there was an article the other day concerning Donald and Mack that suggested the two respective teams may beby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quoteden-the-coach QuoteBC Ramsfan Den, Interested in your take on the ILB situation. PS You didn't mention Lawler re OLBs. Longshot? Lawler listed as a DE, however, they have him dropping back into coverage and he's a high effort guy so we will have to see where he lines up in mini camp...As to ILB I love Kiser really smart guy that brings the wood and many are high on the kidby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
You're right. Mack never entered into negotiations. The only difference I see between what we're saying is extremely minor. From what I've read, he did want and request an extension. However, the Raiders told him they were gonna wait till the next year b/c they needed to take care of Carr first and he understood that. As for Donald, I think the Rams would like to do right by him and not keepby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com