Okay, okay, I admit: I kinda liked the caveman. Too bad you wrapped it up w/all this other silliness (he's arrogant, he's dirty, he's stupid). But, hey, carry on!by Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotestlramz The reason casinos win is they play percentages. He doesn't play the percentages and as you advance, that bites you in the ass or in his case the kneecap. It's going to catch up with him before too long. Not so. He absolutely plays the percentages modified by circumstances and his feel for the in-the-moment dynamics. The defense played lights-out last night, but the 5 weeks beby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamsdude Quoteheadslapper He sure will see him two weeks.....on the fishing boat His arrogance is annoying and it really makes people dislike him. IMO, he might be benefiting from Ben Johnson's success. Without Johnson's creativity and ability to work with Goff is the reason they are winning so much. Not Campbell and his dirty af coaching. Once Johnson is gone, I see that team taking aby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quote73Ram Man he gets so nervous with pressure and makes really bad passes. :clap Good one.by Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemerlin I need Goff to show he can carry his team without a productive run game. Yes that is accurate. And you can cite all the games you want, but Goff has not done it late in the playoffs to hoist the Lombardi. Stafford has. If you can't grasp that, then we disagree. Also Stafford happens to be the Rams' QB. So I think your Goff hypersensitivity is a case of misplaced loyalty.by Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
... it's kinda amazing how many people find it easy to 'argue' with what Jared's been doing lately.by Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemerlin We could for example agree that winning titles is a key metric. And it is. But Dan Marino never won a title. Trent Dilfer did, however, so is he better than Dan Marino? Of course not. However in our discussions re: Goff in particular the title is cited as a key for him. So let's say he wins it all this year. What does that mean exactly. This is why I try to rank the QBs baby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemerlin This stuff is subjective so simmer down on the Goff outrage. Jared has an elite offense around him and that matters. I think he has a good enough team around him to win it all if he plays well. But a successful playoff run showing that he can win without the run game requires beating more than one opponent. Stafford before his title run with us, where he took the Rams all theby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemerlin The second tier are the guys who can do the job as long as they have the run game support. These are the QBs vying to jump into that top tier. One note is that some of these guys bring their own run game, and that extra dimension can put them into a first tier like Jackson for example whose ground threat dictates to defenses just like a run game. But there's a lot of these guys, frby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemtramfan Do you think Goff had (or ever will have, for that matter,) the prtesence of mind and leadership capability to lead the team downfield and with on that last Super Bowl drive that Mastt so brilliantly executed? Seriously? You obviously haven't actually watched him play for some time.by Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteferragamo79 how would Rams do in playoffs without Williams and Puka For sure. Not only did Goff not have Kupp (or a healthy Gurley), 2018 Kupp wasn't 2021 Kupp. Truth is that with their defense in shambles due to injuries - DE #1, DT #1, CB #1, LB #1, LB #3, etc. - Lions' O will have to carry a LOT of weight to get wins from here on out. It's not only about the draw in talent on that siby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Very good post, BRO. And I share your concerns about McVay’s ability to develop QB’s not already elite veterans. Which is why I think Hendon Hooker and Sean McVay would be a very bad match. Don't you find it interesting that Brad Holmes, who helped draft Goff and was there for his entire Rams stay, really wanted Goff as part of the trade and never thought of him as a bridge QBby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJamesJM Team heroes were not forgotten as easily "back then". I think you're right in how you explain it and that it will go exactly that way.... don't think it would have a couple of decades ago, or maybe 3. To be sure, Stafford is far from forgotten in Detroit and some folks will be pained to see him in MN if it happens. I don't mean to say that Lions fans will be indifferent.by Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJamesJM Going to the Rams had to hurt.... but I think a tolerable pain for Lion fans. To the Vikes? That's salt in the wound. Stafford to the Rams definitely pained a lot of Lions fans - partly because he was beloved by many, but also because he left a mess of a team in his wake. But now? Going to a division rival will be weird if it happens, but obviously the Lions are ii a VERY diffby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteroman18 You could bring that possibility that you bring up and it may be a yes he may well win that SB....now let's do this...would Matthew win a SB with the lions this year with what they have going for them now?.....It all means nothing, now back in the year 2021, Matthew did what Goff had a chance to do in 2018 but didn't. At the time it looked evident that Matthew was years ahead of Goby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemerlin Stafford needs to play better. But if you cannot see the difference in OL and talent around the QB you shouldn't be sharing your thoughts. You should be reading the thoughts of others. Big difference, agreed. But the difference was even bigger, in Matt's favor, when the Rams won the Bowl. And all I remember then were mostly I-told-you-so's. Lotta people here who highlight invalby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteroman18 with how Matthew is playing in LA? It's a different system, and the players around Jared (line wise) is no comparison...Yes Goff is playing better...let's put Goff behind our line and scheme...ship Matthew to the lions and see who plays better......The comparison isn't IMO warranted because their circumstances are no where near similar..... Put 2 QB's on teams with poor lines orby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamgator Vikes are not world beaters but they have simply been playing very sound football. We have not. I'm hoping Kupp will be a difference maker and not added fuel to just being one dimensional. Now that I post this, Rams will win 34 to 21. I believe that so far this season no team has won the week after playing the Lions. THERE'S some reasons for optimism for a Rams win.by Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLesBaker The Lions are a way better team than the Rams, that's obvious. They aren't a cheap shot team. They are just better and play more aggressively. Celebrating an injury like his means you are lowrent. How would you feel about opponents celebrating Kupp or PKs injuries......want to discuss it??? The Lions won because they have a better run game, better offensive play callerby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLesBaker From all of you. Shameful. Indeed.by Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemtramfan Timing, anticipation and throwing receivers open are not Goff's strengths. T. Wow. You have no idea.by Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 But it requires some assumptions. IF the Rams keep Goff and IF McVay coaches him to his strengths rather than forcing him to play in McVay’s preferred O. (Like the lightly regarded Campbell has done) And IF Rams used those two 1sts and that 3rd wisely in addition to their other picks… THEN, imo, Rams would be in a much better position today than they are right now. Might or mby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 QuoteCoy Bacon Such a despondent question to poise. The answer is unequivocally "No." We got a ring, they got a couple of nice seasons. I bet you a bucket of Lee's Fried chicken that if the Rams had traded Stafford to the Lions and the Lions won a SB, that they'd make double that trade cost in a heart beat. Everybody seems to be missing the point. The questioby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteOzRam On paper.... but watching the game, his tendencies to not feel the pocket collapsing, fir the internal clock to say time to get rid of the ball!!! Was on show. That game did not need to be as close, especially at the end when the Seahawks got a last chance after Goffs Safety. I mean for God sake man, your in your own end zone and just standing there after a long time. I foundby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
My opinion: Jared Goff has only just entered his prime. Matt Stafford is a very good QB. My prediction: by the time he retires, most people will acknowledge JG as the better QB. We'll see!by Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
I wonder how today's Goff - a Goff w/a head coach who worked to build him up rather than s*** on him - would have done w/Kupp, OBJ, Woods, VonM, AD, Ramsey, Floyd, etc., would do/would have done. Y'know, while we're comparing...by Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax We all get it. You hate Goff as a QB. And it wasn't all that long ago that you said no way the Lions beat the Chiefs because the difference between Goff and Mahomes was way too much. How'd that go for ya? At the end of the day, I think you may have a problem, cause Goff has a long way to go in his career, and the Lions just keep getting better. We all get it. He doesn't lookby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejoram Still have to plsy defense Yup. A very good team (15-4 over last 19) because they're an excellent offense. Their defense is mediocre at best. And JG helms that offense.by Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax He’s doing it without the best RB in the NFL like he had in Gurley. He is better now because he’s more experienced and has a better understanding of how an offense works. Goff is not a freak athlete like Mahomes or Herbert, but when you give him a relatively clean pocket he can win games for you. And even more, Goff will get better the next few years. I have little doubt thatby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills all phases Goff is a good QB. He looks exactly like he did for the Rams in 2018. The offense absolutely does not revolve around him. It is built around play action passing and the Lions ridiculous run game. Goff is not a great QB When he has to drop back and pass which Detroit doesn’t want to do that’s when he has problem. Just like with the Rams in 2017 and 2018 his firstby Suh-weet! - RamsFootballFans.com