QuoteJamesJM they are not that common... and sure, they do happen to everyone... but given any game/season just ONE can be a huge factor in rating. If a QB throws 1 int in a game, true INT, and another has 1 tip the both get hit. If everything else for those 2 QB's is equal they have the same rating. And it's not a matter of 'fair'... of course it isn't fair.. it' inaccurate, and that's whatby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSUretHing Your presumption needs to be proven also. Prove it to me. Show me the statistics otherwise just more meaningless blather. As far as odds do the permutations of down distance inside the 20 weighted by historical success rates in each of those instances. Just math. The permutations alone out weigh the average number of trips a team has made in the RZ in 10 games. And peopby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSUretHing Your assumption is no way safe. The simple fact that teams have a huge disparity in red zone trips lends itself that teams can have a very varied distribution. In fact I find it high;y unlikely after 10 games there are not wide divergencies. Oh and far as completion pct length of throw is usually also taken into account. And not all QBS throw the same number of 20+ throws.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach That's less than 2 per game... 10 sacks occurred in two games...Green Bay and Denver. That means less than 1 sack a game over 8 games. And, I don't really recall Goff being pounded too much from hits. The last two games, we've given up 2 sacks (to Seattle...0 to New Orleans). It could be better...but not terrible. That said, a bye week is welcomed. The Rams withby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSUretHing No they do not just magically iron out. That would be a pure assumption. If your red zone experience start with 1st and goal from the one well that is a heck of a lot better than one that was inside the 20 but on 4th down. Goff has thrown for 16 TD and 2 int in red zone in 60 some attempts. Drew Brees in 60 some attempts has throw 16 TDs and 0 ints. If I assume similar atteby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJamesJM they absolutely DO need come up with a separate category for Int's that are catchable but tipped or somehow muffed allowing the INT.... this because Int's count so much in QB Rating. And I don't think this one 'even's out', (could be wrong)... because they are rare yet have a tremendous impact on the rating. - JamesJM Again though it evens out. Those things eventually happen tby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotehammer It’s a term describing a place from which teams are expected to score as a measure of success. But the ball being inside the 20 is rather arbitrary. It is certainly descriptive and makes it easier for coachs and commentators to make reference rather than getting into the detail. Not all red zone opportunities are the same. For example, first and goal with 4 seconds left in a tie gaby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSUretHing So what you are saying is that the odds of scoring for the one yard line is the same as starting from the 20? That is the only way it would be a consistent measure. No one is saying anything remotely like that. If you have a stat with the same measure applied universally and consistently, then all the little differences iron out. Once you;re inside the 20, a FG is nearlyby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach what matters is that it is a consistent measure. I'm guessing the red zone terminology was developed by coaches. So when Sean McVay himself says the Rams have to improve in the redzone, is he falling prey to a myth and an illusion? If it's a consistent measure that applies universally, then, stats on it are valid. It's like completion percentage. We all know qbs throw thby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Quotezn QuoteRazorback With his helmet on. Before AD runs out there. No one mentions this. Britt was begging for it. If in fact Britt intended something (which I sincerely doubt) then it's not called "begging" it's called "baiting." AD is going to have to demonstrate that he doesn't get baited that way, or teams will keep doing it to him. I agree thatby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRazorback With his helmet on. Before AD runs out there. No one mentions this. Britt was begging for it. If in fact Britt intended something (which I sincerely doubt) then it's not called "begging" it's called "baiting." AD is going to have to demonstrate that he doesn't get baited that way, or teams will keep doing it to him.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 That’s some pretty good speculation there, zn. I think you may be into something there with #2. Kinda feels right and sorta fits the D results that we’re seeing these days. I was just listening to M J-Drew and his idea is that they just miss Talib. That's here:by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJamesJM just a couple of games ago I posted that I thought the D problems were mostly 'player' related.. this after a string of games in which the 'tackling' was incredibly bad. Today... I just don't know, I'm leaning Wade... scheme. But even there I'm lost... certainly Wade knows more than us, sees more than us... yet we're into week 11 and perhaps I'm missing it but our D seems improveby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
An excellent post and I agree on almost all of it. One small thing, and it's more a refinement than a real disagreement. You say: "And the worst thing is coming up short on key drives, a recent and alarming trend. One of these cost us the NO game" If you just measure that in terms of 4th quarter comeback drives, like when the Rams had a chance to come back from 30-35 with minby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotejemach PPG mean little against the Saints, Steelers, Chiefs. Those teams turn Red Zone visits to TDs. We don't. And, since we can't stop the top teams, we will lose unless we do things on special teams or defense that lead to points. 56% for this offense is unacceptable. Saying "Well, we are 9-1" and thinking we don't need to improve in this vitalby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRam_Ruler Because of our defense, by teams with equally bad and worse defenses. Being concerned is one thing and being overly critical is another I don;t know what overly critical is. I just know that for most games against a top team, there will be a range of views. It's just part of the process of discussing this. Meanwhile, again, you can count on it--no one is going to get suddenly ambby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams QuoteRampage2K- Quotezn QuoteRampage2K- Quotejemach LA Rams 2017 Season ended - 17th 53.42% 2018 Season to date - 16th 56.60% 2018 Season to date Top 15 (with selected %s for teams of interest) 1. Pittsburgh 78.57% 2. Cincinnati 3. Carolina 4. Seattle 73.8% 5. New Orleans 72.73% 6. Kansas City 71.11% 7. Atlanta 8. Arizona 68.75% 9. Baltimore 10. Indianapolis 11. Newby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotezn QuoteRampage2K- Quotejemach LA Rams 2017 Season ended - 17th 53.42% 2018 Season to date - 16th 56.60% 2018 Season to date Top 15 (with selected %s for teams of interest) 1. Pittsburgh 78.57% 2. Cincinnati 3. Carolina 4. Seattle 73.8% 5. New Orleans 72.73% 6. Kansas City 71.11% 7. Atlanta 8. Arizona 68.75% 9. Baltimore 10. Indianapolis 11. New England 65.7by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotejemach LA Rams 2017 Season ended - 17th 53.42% 2018 Season to date - 16th 56.60% 2018 Season to date Top 15 (with selected %s for teams of interest) 1. Pittsburgh 78.57% 2. Cincinnati 3. Carolina 4. Seattle 73.8% 5. New Orleans 72.73% 6. Kansas City 71.11% 7. Atlanta 8. Arizona 68.75% 9. Baltimore 10. Indianapolis 11. New England 65.71% 12. Chicago 65.62%by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotezn QuoteRam_Ruler The chiefs have been good awful on defense and for some reason we consider them a Superbowl favorite and we won't make it out of the divisional round. Of course the KC defense is awful. Who exactly is it you think overlooks that? Quite a few seem to think Rams will get whipped in this thread Okay. Not what I asked though. You know it's fineby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRam_Ruler The chiefs have been good awful on defense and for some reason we consider them a Superbowl favorite and we won't make it out of the divisional round. Of course the KC defense is awful. Who exactly is it you think overlooks that?by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams_81 Ranking them how? Based on results or how could they would be if all things equal Goff has a huge advantage because of the coaching and system so he has to be high based on running a successful offense. Take away McVay and put Fisher in and he drops to the bottom of that list. My list is based on results: 1) Mahomes (wow. Dan Marino with agility and elusiveness.) 2)by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAtlantic Ram Brockers. Is it scheme or is he just playing soft? Is he disgruntled??? Is Joyner disgruntled by not getting a long term deal? I can't tell what is going on but its disappointing. The Rams are 9-1 and I am underwhelmed. WTH? I simply hate bad defense more than I love good offense. A lot of things seem to indicate Brockers is not 100%. Maybe still not the same yet after kneeby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteferragamo79some of us believed :thumbsup Indeed.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSoCalRAMatic he dominates at times. Just not on every play. Beg to differ. He is double-teamed more than any other defender in the game. And yet still leads the league in sacks, tackles for loss, qb hits, and overall pressures. The NFL record for sacks by a DT is 17 by La'Roi Glover in 2000. Donald has 12.5 in 10 games. No one dominates every play. But you will notby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 QuoteRamgator We know we have talented players but could several not be the RIGHT players? Wade’s decades long track record makes him a “known” in this equation, gator. I’m assuming that he would make effective adjustments if he had the proper players at his disposal. So, the solution seems to be to get the needed player types for him next offseason so he can “finish” his D.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteferragamo79 7 out of the last 10 games versus the Seahwaks are 8-1 in division games where they played the starters. 8-2 otherwise. Granted right now it ain't a strong division. ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach I'm assuming Donald is still dominating the league in QB hits. As of today, in spite of being double teamed more than anyone else in the game, AD--playing (and I just want to stress this) on the interior DL--leads the league in sacks, qb hits, AND tackles for a loss. He is also tied for most fumbles recovered by a defender with 2. Pay the man. B)- *** ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamsFootballFans.com Quotezn One line on this is that they are not going to call holding every play on teams playing Donald. Do you remember the last time a lineman blocking Aaron was called for holding? I can't It has happened I think but it sure ain't common.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamUK It's sometimes difficult to appreciate greatness when we see it week in week out. I boxed (badly) and loved to watch Ali, but never truly appreciated him like I do now. His hand speed and the power he could produce from a relatively small frame was just insane. Similarly, I saw Johan Cruyff and Pele play at soccer and even though I knew they were amazing, I had no clue how amby zn - RamsFootballFans.com