Quotemax Quotezn Quotemax Rams are 12th. Under 60%. Should be better. Last game was 40 % and it dropped the avg. They started out rough, absolutely DID improve, then the Denver game dropped the average. IMO the real question is, why are they inconsistent and up and down when it comes to RZ offense. .... They weren’t very good last year. I don’t think McVay was good in Waby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 McVay had an off day. So did Goff. There it is. Yes those are facts. Why then do you call them manufactured? And they are facts about one game. I didn't see anyone calling it a new bad trend. They just pointed out flaws in that one game. So why do you call it worries? That's just an analogy. But it works this way. You are telling realists who pointed out flaws in oneby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Rams are 12th. Under 60%. Should be better. Last game was 40 % and it dropped the avg. They started out rough, absolutely DID improve, then the Denver game dropped the average. IMO the real question is, why are they inconsistent and up and down when it comes to RZ offense. ....by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills the defensive player got a hand on the ball and it deflected into Reynolds face Again I don't think anyone through it was a bad throw ... it was the situation/context in which the play was called I have not seen anyone complain about the throw. Yet people show up defending the throw, as if someone HAD complained about the throw. The criticism is situational playcalling.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRinconRam the end result of Denver having the ball deep in our territory was primarily a result of crappy luck. Which happens. So that goes to strategy. What's the best way, situationally, to nurse a lead? You set it up so that you're playing in tune with the highest odds. ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Yeah, I agree that all this the best stuff is a bunch of hot air. What counts is what you got and how does it compare to the other guys. Remember in 1978, Rams started 7-0, we even beat Dallas early in the season. After that game, with Rams players celebrating the win on the field, Staubach said to them, and I quote cause I remember this like it was yesterday, Staubach said “we’llby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotewv ram Course the greg williams team got a ton of turnovers. Hows the rams doin in that category? At present Rams are 17th in takeaways per game. But they make up for it by being 14th in passing TDs allowed. B)-by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotewv ram Williams active, complex style of defense will be music to the ears of Saints Fans in the Dome and just might push the Saints over the top in 2009. That story sure played out differently than intended hunh. I mean except for 2009. ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotewv ram Well i know nuthin about football, but it looks to me like in this era, what ya need is a defense that can make just enough plays to let yer offense beat their offense. Ya know. A defense that maybe, makes a few game-changin or game-saving plays in the fourth quarter. Anybody know a defense like that? :) I remember the Saints super bowl defense. They seemed to suck at everyby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram Here's a prime example of McVay taking the blame for something that really isn't his fault. I disagree. It was his fault. Goff was having an off day against a D dedicated to taking away the pass to the point of sacrificing the run D. So on 3rd and 3 in FG range, they call a pass when at a minimum, a run would keep the FG range reasonable. Instead they lose 10 yards andby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteHazlet Hacksaw couple times he was climbing the pocket and ran into sacks - Goff was a little off on sunday. I just take it that this is the first time the Rams played a team with the following factors: 1. first-rate coverage 2. first-rate pass rush 3. game-plan dedicated to taking away the pass first, even to the point of sacrificing the run D That all just makes it harder. Wiby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
This was at length, in detail, with several plays identified and described. No he doesn't do that every week. This is from the SECOND presser about the same issue. In other words he spent 2 pressers on this. At length and in detail. Quote(On if after reviewing film he thinks his play-calling was worthy of his post-game criticism) “Yes, I just think some of the things thatby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteznSo in fact if I can put it this way, in those circumstances the breakdown WAS the decision. .... QuoteAnd then I thought the two plays that we ended up taking sacks, when we were on the 19 yard line. Fortunately, the second one on the bootleg didn’t end up hurting us, we were running the ball so efficiently. Then the third down-and-three, where we end up knocking ourselves out of, wby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSaguaro I think part of our latest contretemps on the board is differing expectations. . I agree with a lot of what you say there. About Goff and McVay needing to grow, for example. I don't know about expecting or not expecting a superbowl though. This is just my own personal relationship to that, but I don't know that I have any real feelings about that either way. I do believe tby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJamesJM I'll grant you that.... and everyone else who questions the call (I am with you). It's WHY, or rather where, the breakdown occurred on the play intended because THAT is what, until this game, the Ram's were doing extremely well, IMHO. - JamesJM It wasn't a break down, Denver committed its defense to defending the pass, and that's a team with good pass rushers and a good secondaryby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJamesJM with my laptop on my... well, lap... I was getting a very different impression than it seemed those who were watching were getting... about the play calling... BUT... the board cleared that up for me when i asked about it and learned it wasn't the run/pass ratio but rather the game and down situation and how it related to the plays. Something you and others have been discussing sincby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemerlin I'm not arguing that the Rams should have run the ball more. But attacking in the passing game is what this offense does. They DICTATE. To do that you have to throw into the teeth of bad looks at times and let Jared grow into that level of play. And in this case they went up against a D deliberately geared up to address precisely that. There's dictating and then there's beingby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotebadgerdms Maybe they are trying to limit Sam Shields number of plays, but Troy Hill is just killing us while Talib is out. Am I the only one that feels wants more Shields and less Hill? The word I hear is that Shields is a huge liability against the run. He has also struggled in pass D too so it's not like going with SS over Hill just means trading one issue for another. ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
And I agree with virtually all of it and like the way you framed the issue. One small factual thing. Until yesterday, this year the Rams HAD improved in the redzone. Yesterday was a regression. Yesterday they regressed to a 40% success rate (TDs only). Across all 6 games that would ranked 30th in the league. Before they were approaching and even crossing 60%, which is an improvemenby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Man it's hard to hear some of these criticisms...mic drop You're looking for a "winner." B) Like all human beings, you want YOUR opinions to be the winning ones. But debates like this don't have winners. They have different views and the more the better. There will never be a case where there is THE post that just IN REALITY shuts everyone on the "otherby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 Yeah, I see what you are saying. It is hard to critique not running enough when they called 35 runs and 35 passes (not counting the final two kneel downs). There were a couple head scratching calls to me. One to me being the 3rd down pass from the Denver 19 where Goff was sacked and Santos then missed from 47. But we do have to maintain perspective. McVay is bold, not arrogant. And somby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteHazlet Hacksaw Much harder to do in the redzone - Watch the Patriots, they are very vanilla in the redzone, I'd love to know how many times they score on simple RB routes. Gronk is a huge target he aint running sophisticated routes down there. Rams have to work the goaline more on those quick routes. And of course - always looks to Gurley to pound it in. I think those points are aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram I would love it if the Rams got better at scoring TDs in the redzone. I personally don't know what the problem is: play calling? personnel? execution? Or maybe it's as simple as my expectations not being realistic. In any event what McVay says in a post game presser isn't relevant simply because he would say exactly the same thing no matter what the real issue is. In other wby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSaguaro IMO, the criticism today has been over the top. Not proportionate.. I disagree. And here's my own opinion which is unfortunately in the same vein. Which is itself a problem. I would rather read people's direct responses to the game, and disagreements about that, then judgments about whether or not other posts have the "appropriate" sense of proportion. Either way oncby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJamesJM I think you did damned good job. No joking. - Jamesjavascript:editor_tools_handle_quote()JM Thank you! Anyway the wood analogy is real. Sometimes one of my daughters helps when I am chopping and stacking wood. And of course if a piece is too big and I have to split it, I aim to get perfectly equal two pieces. And sometimes I do. And sometimes I clunk, and an inch wide splinter goeby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteferragamo79 no need to respond with quote....for us phone users Sorry, I didn't even know that was a thing. I never use the phone on the board so I had no idea that was an issue. ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJamesJM and I'll be honest... I don't get it. That needs explanation. First of all... this is NOT criticism... in fact it's the opposite... but you may not 'get it'. There are some RB's that have played in the NFL, throughout history, whose talent is ... how shall I say this... 'confusing'. Most are easy... they jig and jag well, they power well, they break tackles well, etc etc etby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotekfriel Yes of course. It is a compliment to discuss glaring mistakes the team and coaches made on the board and still be 6-0. When a team doesn't know how to finish it puts a lot at risk. Not just scores but players. When it doesn't know how to defend the run, that's an issue too. Even in a win. That was part of last week;s discussion. This weeks discussion includes, why are they tby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamUK That started after Fishers last season and they read this board that they'd be thinking: 'Hm, I guess we must have a 3 game division lead and be two games ahead in the chase for home field advantage on the rest of the NFC after only 6 games' :couch I think they would think "wow nothing changes, everyone's still debating what they can or can't say." B) This is aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotestlrams13 I just think many of us don't care for the Immediate criticism after the game Secondly I think many of us just believe the coach knows better and that the ones that appear to be disgruntled really don't know the game plan, the weaknesses of the other team, don't know if audibles were made etc Enjoy the win and let the staff make the adjustments The opponent has coaches toby zn - RamsFootballFans.com