unless we drive out past the city limits.. so, even a small town of 104K has issues with lighting, as far as seeing stars goes..
The best areas I've been to for star gazing have been on dive trips - especially private islands that are very small.. velvet black sky with the most brilliant stars.. its so much different than what I'm used to here in Texas..
Friendship is like peeing your pants.. Everybody can see it, but only you can feel the warmth..