February 20, 2021 08:41PM
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Your wrong. It's not about Goff. Sometimes I just get a feeling about a person. Often its unfair to the person which I later find out. Nevertheless, that's how I feel about the HC. So I'm as open to the possibility that coaches on his staff didn't like him as I'm open to the possibility that I'm dead wrong on that

Yeah people who may have criticisms of McVay--even tentative ones, like yours, which you basically are saying you are open to new info--have met with, and likely will still meet with, this: the motives smear where someone says, you're just bitter about Goff.

As a motives smear it has about the same value as any other motives smear. Namely, none. It has no value.
Oh balogna, ZN. I'm not smearing or discounting or any other ulterior motive you try an place on anyone that doesn't agree with you.

I have had a pleasant back and forth with Waterfield about this situation and no one needs you to interpret it so we can understand what's really being said.

I'm not pulling my opinion out of the ether. Waterfield has been posting very negative thoughts related to the Goff trade and that's fine. It's also fine to question why he seems to feel so strongly about it and he's explained himself. He's got a gut feeling about McVay and I'm fine with that. I don't agree with it but I understand it and accept it. I happened to feel the same about Goff. There was just something there about it him that to others would seem ridiculous or ludicrous, but my gut reaction to him was just instinctively negative.

Actually, two examples that always bothered me about him were 1) his favorite player being Joe Montana. I never believed that to be true. It just doesn't make sense to have a favorite player who retired before you were born and I'll probably never believe it was true. 2) Putting on a Dodgers jersey and throwing out the first pitch in LA. He is a lifelong Giants fan. I'm a Dodgers fan and you asked me to put on a Giants jersey, I wouldn't do it. So, it made me question his character right from the start. He could have easily worn a Rams jersey or street clothes to throw out that first pitch.

Granted, these are just things to me but they are important to me in evaluating a person. How someone represents themselves as a sports fan holds some value to me. Goff failed on two different occasions and forever just made me question how genuine he really was. Not saying he is a bad person but he seemed too much like politician or something.
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  maybe it wasn't Kromer

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  Re: maybe it wasn't Kromer

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  What does that mean exactly? NM

PHDram201February 19, 2021 01:25PM

  Re: What does that mean exactly? NM

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  Re: What does that mean exactly? NM

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  Re: What does that mean exactly? NM

waterfield141February 20, 2021 07:21AM

  Other Ram coaches may have seen it that way also

PHDram138February 20, 2021 08:21AM

  Re: What does that mean exactly? NM

moklerman144February 20, 2021 11:48AM

  what did the Rams do that was so bad?

PHDram129February 20, 2021 12:22PM

  Re: What does that mean exactly? NM

waterfield173February 20, 2021 02:04PM

  Re: What does that mean exactly? NM

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  Re: What does that mean exactly? NM

waterfield130February 20, 2021 02:32PM

  Re: What does that mean exactly? NM

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  Re: What does that mean exactly? NM

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  Re: What does that mean exactly? NM

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  Giant fan in a Dodger jersey?

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  Timing

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  Re: Timing

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  Re: Timing

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  Re: Timing

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  Re: Timing

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  Whether it was or wasn't Kromer

merlin168February 19, 2021 02:44PM

  Re: A little Rich Hammond on the Kromer thing...

oldschoolramfan282February 19, 2021 10:02AM

  here's the part that is Hammond

zn322February 19, 2021 10:22AM

  I agree with hammond

PHDram421February 19, 2021 10:51AM

  That makes sense to me.

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  His kid sticking around

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  Re: His kid sticking around

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  Re: His kid sticking around

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  Re: His kid sticking around

Rams43145February 19, 2021 03:40PM

  Exactly

Drew2839170February 19, 2021 03:53PM

  Re: That makes sense to me.

zn200February 19, 2021 03:15PM

  Re: That makes sense to me.

Drew2839182February 19, 2021 03:47PM

  Re: That makes sense to me.

zn192February 19, 2021 03:58PM

  Sound advice, Aaron "zn" Kromer. nm

Drew2839192February 19, 2021 04:28PM

  Re: That makes sense to me.

PHDram258February 19, 2021 05:30PM

  Re: That makes sense to me.

zn163February 19, 2021 05:59PM

  I said

PHDram157February 19, 2021 06:07PM

  disagree with your entire take on this (NM)

zn138February 20, 2021 08:41AM

  Thats fine

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