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....just numbers.
Playoff games not included.
Goff: fumbles 0.79 per game, picks 0.6 per game.
Stafford: fumbles 0.87 per game, picks 0.41 per game.
Stafford in his 5th year had 4 bad games with a qb rating below 70, and in those 4 games he had 4 TDs and 9 Ints. He fumbled 12 times that season including 5 in one game, 1 lost. That one game was one of the 4 bad games. So that's 10 TOs in those 4 games. In the other 12 games, he had a total of 13 TOs.
Goff in his 5th year had games with a qb raring below 70, and in those 3 games he had 1 TD and 4 INTs, plus 3 fumbles, w/ 3 lost. So that's 7 TOs in 3 games. In the other 14 games he played, he had a total of 9 INTs and 1 fumble for a total of 10 TOs.
So outside of the bad games--Stafford had 12 games with 13 TOs, and Goff had 14 games with a total of 10 TOs.
Was Stafford a turnover machine in 2013, his 5th year? Yes. Worse than Goff in 2020.
Did Stafford get over it? Yes. No bad games with a qb rating below 70 (though he had 1 game that was exactly 70). 10 INTs, 1 fumble lost, for a total of 11 TOs in 16 games.
Goff does not have the physical gifts and experience of Stafford, but Stafford shows that a turnover machine qb can get over it.
Is that important for 2021? No. Goff is a Lion. No one I know of complains about the trade--if the coach and qb are in divorce mode, then you have to cut ties, and they did well to get Stafford.
But in terms of just balanced, good, objective analysis, regardless who the player is, what does Stafford's 5th year tell us about Goff's 5th year? That year 5 does not set in concrete what a guy is. QBs can still improve on weaknesses. That's not to say Goff will but nothing says he can't.
And TOs was not the reason McVay divorced Goff. It was other things. They were just not seeing the offense the same way. My bet is McVay will do the smart thing and build around Stafford, so for the time being anyway, there's no risk of them having a disconnect about the offense.
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