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This, of course, became a much more important area of need with the loss of TG3.

My focus here is in 3 areas ... one is "Does a top 40 back fall to 52?"
Next is "Which late 3rd/4th round heavy RB can we use as a workhorse?"
Finally "Is there a goal line specialist we can get late?"



Salvon Ahmed Washington 5-11 197 4.62 4.62 -- DNP DNP 34.5 10-0 8 3/4 29 1/4 Ran oddly slower than expected ... smooth. Maybe UDFA with potential?

Cam Akers Florida St. 5-10 217 4.47 4.47 -- 20 DNP 35.5 10-2 9 30 5/8 So ... He literally made a million dollars on the Duce Staley drill. His feet were unreal. My guess is that he's gone by 52, if he's there I'm definitely considering it.

Jet Anderson TCU 5-10 208 4.61 4.61 -- 19 DNP 36 10-8 9 5/8 30 1/2 UDFA. Talented and likely to make a roster, but not special enough to spend draft capital on.

LeVante Bellamy Western Michigan 5-9 192 4.50 4.51 -- 16 DNP 39.5 10-5 8 3/4 30 1/4 I don't know if he makes a roster.

Eno Benjamin Arizona State 5-9 207 4.57 4.57 -- 12 6.97 39 10-2 8 5/8 31 1/4 He consistently out performs my expectations ...

Raymond Calais Louisiana-Lafayette 5-8 188 4.42 4.42 -- 20 DNP 37.5 10-0 9 1/4 30 Speeeeeeed.

DeeJay Dallas Miami 5-10 217 4.58 4.58 -- DNP 7.18 33.5 9-11 9 1/4 30 5/8 Late round goal line for me.

AJ Dillon Boston College 6-0 247 4.53 4.53 -- 23 7.19 41 10-11 9 5/8 31 5/8 Target in round 4, maybe comp 3rd. Ive watched him since his freshman year, and believe he was going a bit easy this year. If you get the way he ran as a freshman, this is a top 50 back.

J.K. Dobbins Ohio St. 5-9 209 DNP DNP -- 23 DNP DNP DNP 9 1/2 29 3/4 Does he make 52? He didn't perform so that's a bummer ... but does Akers push him down to 52?

Rico Dowdle South Carolina 5-11 213 4.54 4.54 -- DNP DNP 38 10-7 9 1/2 31 3/8 Late round goal line. Smooth. Not the best vision but runs with power and catches the ball.

Clyde Edwards-Helaire LSU 5-7 207 4.60 4.61 -- 15 DNP 39.5 10-3 9 5/8 29 So ... knowing what I know about his leadership Im tempted to take him at 52. I want an edge at 52 so odds are Ill have someone rated higher. Can we trade down and take him at the end of the 2nd?

Darrynton Evans Appalachian St. 5-10 203 4.41 4.42 -- 20 DNP 37 10-5 9 1/4 31 5/8 He will be underdrafted, but he's speed and I don't think we need that.

JaMycal Hasty Baylor 5-8 205 4.55 4.56 -- 15 DNP 39 10-3 9 1/8 31 1/8 Underrated ... I'm a fan, and if he's there in the 6th round Im taking him. He squats 600 + pounds. If he ghoes undrafted Im looking for him regardless.

Brian Herrien Georgia 5-11 209 4.62 4.62 -- 18 7.12 38.5 10-6 9 29 3/4 UDFA goal line specialist.

Tony Jones Notre Dame 5-10 220 4.68 4.69 -- 13 7.18 32.5 9-11 9 1/2 30 5/8 Never had him as draftable. Doubt he makes a roster.

Joshua Kelley UCLA 5-11 212 4.49 4.50 -- 23 6.95 31 10-1 9 5/8 31 5/8 This guy will be underdrafted and in the right situation could be a serious asset.

Javon Leake Maryland 6-0 215 4.65 4.65 -- DNP DNP 34 10-5 9 5/8 31 1/2 Doubt he makes a roster.

Benny LeMay Charlotte 5-8 221 4.75 4.80 -- 24 DNP 28.5 9-4 9 29 7/8 Doubt e makes a roster.

Anthony McFarland Maryland 5-8 208 4.44 4.45 -- DNP DNP 29.5 9-8 8 7/8 30 3/8 This kid will be underdrafted ... and Im betting he makes a powerful change of pace with unexpected power.

Zack Moss Utah 5-9 223 4.65 4.70 -- 19 DNP 33 DNP 9 1/4 31 1/4 Im not a fan as much as most ... Id take him for goal line in the 6th.

Sewo Olonilua TCU 6-3 232 4.66 4.67 -- 25 DNP 36 10-3 10 32 1/8

La'Mical Perine Florida 5-11 216 4.62 4.62 -- 22 7.13 35 9-10 10 1/4 31 5/8 Target for round 4. Attitude is a big plus.

Scottie Phillips Mississippi 5-8 209 4.56 4.56 -- 29 7.40 30 9-6 8 1/2 29 3/8

James Robinson Illinois St. 5-9 219 4.64 4.64 -- 24 7.03 40 10-5 8 3/4 29 5/8 I think this kid gets underdrafted ... could be a steal.

D'Andre Swift Georgia 5-8 212 4.48 4.48 -- DNP DNP 35.5 10-1 9 29 7/8 Great day ... he should be locked into round 1.

J.J. Taylor Arizona 5-5 185 4.61 4.62 -- 19 7.00 34.5 9-10 8 1/2 28 3/4 I'm not sure, never really liked his tape all that much and he didn;t have a great day.

Jonathan Taylor Wisconsin 5-10 226 4.39 4.41 -- 17 7.01 36 10-3 9 1/2 31 1/8 Game changing back like Saquon who will slide because of wear and tear.

Patrick Taylor Memphis 6-1 217 4.57 4.57 -- 15 DNP 34 10-3 9 3/8 32 1/4 Will be underdrafted and I hope he's a UDFA we can pull in because of ties to Henderson.

Ke'Shawn Vaughn Vanderbilt 5-10 214 4.51 4.52 -- DNP DNP 32 9-9 8 7/8 30 7/8 See Rico Dowdle.

Mike Warren Cincinnati 5-9 226 DNP DNP -- 16 DNP DNP DNP 9 1/8 29 1/2 6th round goalline ... will be underdrafted ... because Cincinnati.





Thoughts and comments welcome ... In my mock I take Dillon/Perine in the 4th. I am really focused on guys that get into the end zone from the 3 or 4.
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This, of course, became a much more important area of need with the loss of TG3.

My focus here is in 3 areas ... one is "Does a top 40 back fall to 52?" The only thing moving me off a Edge or OC at 52 would be if a top 40 RB slides down. So I am 100% in agreement with you.
Next is "Which late 3rd/4th round heavy RB can we use as a workhorse?"I don't want a workhorse. I just want a guy that can play well with Henderson for the next 4 years and then let someone else pay him and repeat the process all over. I'm done paying RBs.
Finally "Is there a goal line specialist we can get late?" Again, I'm not drafting a RB only for GL duties to take up a roster spot, he is going to have to be more then just a buiser.

When I look at OZS running backs, I want a guy that has excellent vision, good instincts, patience is a must, as is 1 cut ability. They don't have to be the worlds greatest athlete, but they need those things. I don't care what size they are.




Cam Akers Florida St. 5-10 217 4.47 4.47 -- 20 DNP 35.5 10-2 9 30 5/8 So ... He literally made a million dollars on the Duce Staley drill. His feet were unreal. My guess is that he's gone by 52, if he's there I'm definitely considering it. Agree, he's my #4 back. He's not my 1st or 2nd choice, but he'd be a nice consolation prize.

Jet Anderson TCU 5-10 208 4.61 4.61 -- 19 DNP 36 10-8 9 5/8 30 1/2 UDFA. Talented and likely to make a roster, but not special enough to spend draft capital on. yep, nothing special


Eno Benjamin Arizona State 5-9 207 4.57 4.57 -- 12 6.97 39 10-2 8 5/8 31 1/4 He consistently out performs my expectations ... I thought iwas the only one that likes him. Looks like he's building a fanclub.

AJ Dillon Boston College 6-0 247 4.53 4.53 -- 23 7.19 41 10-11 9 5/8 31 5/8 Target in round 4, maybe comp 3rd. Ive watched him since his freshman year, and believe he was going a bit easy this year. If you get the way he ran as a freshman, this is a top 50 back. He has grown on me a bit as I watch him more. I thing he could work in an outside zone scheme. 4th round feels right to me as well.

J.K. Dobbins Ohio St. 5-9 209 DNP DNP -- 23 DNP DNP DNP 9 1/2 29 3/4 Does he make 52? He didn't perform so that's a bummer ... but does Akers push him down to 52? This is MY guy. And I don't like OSU, so thats saying something. he's a perfect fit and I am sprinting to the podium if he is available at 52, not trading back.

Clyde Edwards-Helaire LSU 5-7 207 4.60 4.61 -- 15 DNP 39.5 10-3 9 5/8 29 So ... knowing what I know about his leadership Im tempted to take him at 52. I want an edge at 52 so odds are Ill have someone rated higher. Can we trade down and take him at the end of the 2nd? If he fell to around 60, this is a good value pick IMO. My #5 back and a very good compliment to Hendo.

Darrynton Evans Appalachian St. 5-10 203 4.41 4.42 -- 20 DNP 37 10-5 9 1/4 31 5/8 He will be underdrafted, but he's speed and I don't think we need that. Love his game, he is dynamic. i think a Hendo Evans duo would be nice. Def. a day 3 guy.

Joshua Kelley UCLA 5-11 212 4.49 4.50 -- 23 6.95 31 10-1 9 5/8 31 5/8 This guy will be underdrafted and in the right situation could be a serious asset. agreed.

Anthony McFarland Maryland 5-8 208 4.44 4.45 -- DNP DNP 29.5 9-8 8 7/8 30 3/8 This kid will be underdrafted ... and Im betting he makes a powerful change of pace with unexpected power. Yeah, I like him. He's got sneaky power for his size, but make no mistake, his money is getting the edge and hammering HRs. X plosive

Zack Moss Utah 5-9 223 4.65 4.70 -- 19 DNP 33 DNP 9 1/4 31 1/4 Im not a fan as much as most ... Id take him for goal line in the 6th. same, I just dont get him as much as some others do.

La'Mical Perine Florida 5-11 216 4.62 4.62 -- 22 7.13 35 9-10 10 1/4 31 5/8 Target for round 4. Attitude is a big plus. a nice complement to hendo, patience is top notch and he is an absolute 1 cut beast with some wiggle. Love him

James Robinson Illinois St. 5-9 219 4.64 4.64 -- 24 7.03 40 10-5 8 3/4 29 5/8 I think this kid gets underdrafted ... could be a steal. couldn't agree more

D'Andre Swift Georgia 5-8 212 4.48 4.48 -- DNP DNP 35.5 10-1 9 29 7/8 Great day ... he should be locked into round 1. yep

J.J. Taylor Arizona 5-5 185 4.61 4.62 -- 19 7.00 34.5 9-10 8 1/2 28 3/4 I'm not sure, never really liked his tape all that much and he didn;t have a great day. hes so small. Not my type of RB.

Jonathan Taylor Wisconsin 5-10 226 4.39 4.41 -- 17 7.01 36 10-3 9 1/2 31 1/8 Game changing back like Saquon who will slide because of wear and tear. I would love to see a kid with his attitude, size, speed, patience and 1 cut ability on the Rams roster. Perfect fit

Patrick Taylor Memphis 6-1 217 4.57 4.57 -- 15 DNP 34 10-3 9 3/8 32 1/4 Will be underdrafted and I hope he's a UDFA we can pull in because of ties to Henderson. that would be nice, never thought of that TBH

Ke'Shawn Vaughn Vanderbilt 5-10 214 4.51 4.52 -- DNP DNP 32 9-9 8 7/8 30 7/8 See Rico Dowdle. Another patient runner that works well in a OZS, and can be had late. I like him.


Thoughts and comments welcome ... In my mock I take Dillon/Perine in the 4th. I am really focused on guys that get into the end zone from the 3 or 4.

I would have maybe thrown in Gibson again, even though he was/is a WR.

My guys I like personally for the Rams

2nd round: Taylor then Dobbins then Akers then CE-H
3rd round: Benjamin
4th round: Perine then Dillon
5th round: Evans
6th round: Vaughn then P. Taylor
7th round: Robinson then Kelley
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This, of course, became a much more important area of need with the loss of TG3.

My focus here is in 3 areas ... one is "Does a top 40 back fall to 52?" The only thing moving me off a Edge or OC at 52 would be if a top 40 RB slides down. So I am 100% in agreement with you.
Next is "Which late 3rd/4th round heavy RB can we use as a workhorse?"I don't want a workhorse. I just want a guy that can play well with Henderson for the next 4 years and then let someone else pay him and repeat the process all over. I'm done paying RBs.
Finally "Is there a goal line specialist we can get late?" Again, I'm not drafting a RB only for GL duties to take up a roster spot, he is going to have to be more then just a buiser.

When I look at OZS running backs, I want a guy that has excellent vision, good instincts, patience is a must, as is 1 cut ability. They don't have to be the worlds greatest athlete, but they need those things. I don't care what size they are.




Cam Akers Florida St. 5-10 217 4.47 4.47 -- 20 DNP 35.5 10-2 9 30 5/8 So ... He literally made a million dollars on the Duce Staley drill. His feet were unreal. My guess is that he's gone by 52, if he's there I'm definitely considering it. Agree, he's my #4 back. He's not my 1st or 2nd choice, but he'd be a nice consolation prize.

Jet Anderson TCU 5-10 208 4.61 4.61 -- 19 DNP 36 10-8 9 5/8 30 1/2 UDFA. Talented and likely to make a roster, but not special enough to spend draft capital on. yep, nothing special


Eno Benjamin Arizona State 5-9 207 4.57 4.57 -- 12 6.97 39 10-2 8 5/8 31 1/4 He consistently out performs my expectations ... I thought iwas the only one that likes him. Looks like he's building a fanclub.

AJ Dillon Boston College 6-0 247 4.53 4.53 -- 23 7.19 41 10-11 9 5/8 31 5/8 Target in round 4, maybe comp 3rd. Ive watched him since his freshman year, and believe he was going a bit easy this year. If you get the way he ran as a freshman, this is a top 50 back. He has grown on me a bit as I watch him more. I thing he could work in an outside zone scheme. 4th round feels right to me as well.

J.K. Dobbins Ohio St. 5-9 209 DNP DNP -- 23 DNP DNP DNP 9 1/2 29 3/4 Does he make 52? He didn't perform so that's a bummer ... but does Akers push him down to 52? This is MY guy. And I don't like OSU, so thats saying something. he's a perfect fit and I am sprinting to the podium if he is available at 52, not trading back.

Clyde Edwards-Helaire LSU 5-7 207 4.60 4.61 -- 15 DNP 39.5 10-3 9 5/8 29 So ... knowing what I know about his leadership Im tempted to take him at 52. I want an edge at 52 so odds are Ill have someone rated higher. Can we trade down and take him at the end of the 2nd? If he fell to around 60, this is a good value pick IMO. My #5 back and a very good compliment to Hendo.

Darrynton Evans Appalachian St. 5-10 203 4.41 4.42 -- 20 DNP 37 10-5 9 1/4 31 5/8 He will be underdrafted, but he's speed and I don't think we need that. Love his game, he is dynamic. i think a Hendo Evans duo would be nice. Def. a day 3 guy.

Joshua Kelley UCLA 5-11 212 4.49 4.50 -- 23 6.95 31 10-1 9 5/8 31 5/8 This guy will be underdrafted and in the right situation could be a serious asset. agreed.

Anthony McFarland Maryland 5-8 208 4.44 4.45 -- DNP DNP 29.5 9-8 8 7/8 30 3/8 This kid will be underdrafted ... and Im betting he makes a powerful change of pace with unexpected power. Yeah, I like him. He's got sneaky power for his size, but make no mistake, his money is getting the edge and hammering HRs. X plosive

Zack Moss Utah 5-9 223 4.65 4.70 -- 19 DNP 33 DNP 9 1/4 31 1/4 Im not a fan as much as most ... Id take him for goal line in the 6th. same, I just dont get him as much as some others do.

La'Mical Perine Florida 5-11 216 4.62 4.62 -- 22 7.13 35 9-10 10 1/4 31 5/8 Target for round 4. Attitude is a big plus. a nice complement to hendo, patience is top notch and he is an absolute 1 cut beast with some wiggle. Love him

James Robinson Illinois St. 5-9 219 4.64 4.64 -- 24 7.03 40 10-5 8 3/4 29 5/8 I think this kid gets underdrafted ... could be a steal. couldn't agree more

D'Andre Swift Georgia 5-8 212 4.48 4.48 -- DNP DNP 35.5 10-1 9 29 7/8 Great day ... he should be locked into round 1. yep

J.J. Taylor Arizona 5-5 185 4.61 4.62 -- 19 7.00 34.5 9-10 8 1/2 28 3/4 I'm not sure, never really liked his tape all that much and he didn;t have a great day. hes so small. Not my type of RB.

Jonathan Taylor Wisconsin 5-10 226 4.39 4.41 -- 17 7.01 36 10-3 9 1/2 31 1/8 Game changing back like Saquon who will slide because of wear and tear. I would love to see a kid with his attitude, size, speed, patience and 1 cut ability on the Rams roster. Perfect fit

Patrick Taylor Memphis 6-1 217 4.57 4.57 -- 15 DNP 34 10-3 9 3/8 32 1/4 Will be underdrafted and I hope he's a UDFA we can pull in because of ties to Henderson. that would be nice, never thought of that TBH

Ke'Shawn Vaughn Vanderbilt 5-10 214 4.51 4.52 -- DNP DNP 32 9-9 8 7/8 30 7/8 See Rico Dowdle. Another patient runner that works well in a OZS, and can be had late. I like him.


Thoughts and comments welcome ... In my mock I take Dillon/Perine in the 4th. I am really focused on guys that get into the end zone from the 3 or 4.

I would have maybe thrown in Gibson again, even though he was/is a WR.

My guys I like personally for the Rams

2nd round: Taylor then Dobbins then Akers then CE-H
3rd round: Benjamin
4th round: Perine then Dillon
5th round: Evans
6th round: Vaughn then P. Taylor
7th round: Robinson then Kelley

Great feedback both of you on the RBs.

There is something you state her Deadpool that I'm not understanding. You state above that you don't just want a workhorse RB or a GL bruiser but someone who can work well with Hendo yet you would spring to the podium for a top 40 RB that fell. My question is, why?

If we're just going for a complement back isn't the 2nd round wasting draft resources? It feels to me like compliment back would be 3rd round or later, ideally not earlier than 4th.

Another question from our draft experts: can WR Lynn Bowden actually be a RB?
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This, of course, became a much more important area of need with the loss of TG3.

My focus here is in 3 areas ... one is "Does a top 40 back fall to 52?"
Next is "Which late 3rd/4th round heavy RB can we use as a workhorse?"
Finally "Is there a goal line specialist we can get late?"



Salvon Ahmed Washington 5-11 197 4.62 4.62 -- DNP DNP 34.5 10-0 8 3/4 29 1/4 Ran oddly slower than expected ... smooth. Maybe UDFA with potential?

Cam Akers Florida St. 5-10 217 4.47 4.47 -- 20 DNP 35.5 10-2 9 30 5/8 So ... He literally made a million dollars on the Duce Staley drill. His feet were unreal. My guess is that he's gone by 52, if he's there I'm definitely considering it.

Jet Anderson TCU 5-10 208 4.61 4.61 -- 19 DNP 36 10-8 9 5/8 30 1/2 UDFA. Talented and likely to make a roster, but not special enough to spend draft capital on.

LeVante Bellamy Western Michigan 5-9 192 4.50 4.51 -- 16 DNP 39.5 10-5 8 3/4 30 1/4 I don't know if he makes a roster.

Eno Benjamin Arizona State 5-9 207 4.57 4.57 -- 12 6.97 39 10-2 8 5/8 31 1/4 He consistently out performs my expectations ...

Raymond Calais Louisiana-Lafayette 5-8 188 4.42 4.42 -- 20 DNP 37.5 10-0 9 1/4 30 Speeeeeeed.

DeeJay Dallas Miami 5-10 217 4.58 4.58 -- DNP 7.18 33.5 9-11 9 1/4 30 5/8 Late round goal line for me.

AJ Dillon Boston College 6-0 247 4.53 4.53 -- 23 7.19 41 10-11 9 5/8 31 5/8 Target in round 4, maybe comp 3rd. Ive watched him since his freshman year, and believe he was going a bit easy this year. If you get the way he ran as a freshman, this is a top 50 back.

J.K. Dobbins Ohio St. 5-9 209 DNP DNP -- 23 DNP DNP DNP 9 1/2 29 3/4 Does he make 52? He didn't perform so that's a bummer ... but does Akers push him down to 52?

Rico Dowdle South Carolina 5-11 213 4.54 4.54 -- DNP DNP 38 10-7 9 1/2 31 3/8 Late round goal line. Smooth. Not the best vision but runs with power and catches the ball.

Clyde Edwards-Helaire LSU 5-7 207 4.60 4.61 -- 15 DNP 39.5 10-3 9 5/8 29 So ... knowing what I know about his leadership Im tempted to take him at 52. I want an edge at 52 so odds are Ill have someone rated higher. Can we trade down and take him at the end of the 2nd?

Darrynton Evans Appalachian St. 5-10 203 4.41 4.42 -- 20 DNP 37 10-5 9 1/4 31 5/8 He will be underdrafted, but he's speed and I don't think we need that.

JaMycal Hasty Baylor 5-8 205 4.55 4.56 -- 15 DNP 39 10-3 9 1/8 31 1/8 Underrated ... I'm a fan, and if he's there in the 6th round Im taking him. He squats 600 + pounds. If he ghoes undrafted Im looking for him regardless.

Brian Herrien Georgia 5-11 209 4.62 4.62 -- 18 7.12 38.5 10-6 9 29 3/4 UDFA goal line specialist.

Tony Jones Notre Dame 5-10 220 4.68 4.69 -- 13 7.18 32.5 9-11 9 1/2 30 5/8 Never had him as draftable. Doubt he makes a roster.

Joshua Kelley UCLA 5-11 212 4.49 4.50 -- 23 6.95 31 10-1 9 5/8 31 5/8 This guy will be underdrafted and in the right situation could be a serious asset.

Javon Leake Maryland 6-0 215 4.65 4.65 -- DNP DNP 34 10-5 9 5/8 31 1/2 Doubt he makes a roster.

Benny LeMay Charlotte 5-8 221 4.75 4.80 -- 24 DNP 28.5 9-4 9 29 7/8 Doubt e makes a roster.

Anthony McFarland Maryland 5-8 208 4.44 4.45 -- DNP DNP 29.5 9-8 8 7/8 30 3/8 This kid will be underdrafted ... and Im betting he makes a powerful change of pace with unexpected power.

Zack Moss Utah 5-9 223 4.65 4.70 -- 19 DNP 33 DNP 9 1/4 31 1/4 Im not a fan as much as most ... Id take him for goal line in the 6th.

Sewo Olonilua TCU 6-3 232 4.66 4.67 -- 25 DNP 36 10-3 10 32 1/8

La'Mical Perine Florida 5-11 216 4.62 4.62 -- 22 7.13 35 9-10 10 1/4 31 5/8 Target for round 4. Attitude is a big plus.

Scottie Phillips Mississippi 5-8 209 4.56 4.56 -- 29 7.40 30 9-6 8 1/2 29 3/8

James Robinson Illinois St. 5-9 219 4.64 4.64 -- 24 7.03 40 10-5 8 3/4 29 5/8 I think this kid gets underdrafted ... could be a steal.

D'Andre Swift Georgia 5-8 212 4.48 4.48 -- DNP DNP 35.5 10-1 9 29 7/8 Great day ... he should be locked into round 1.

J.J. Taylor Arizona 5-5 185 4.61 4.62 -- 19 7.00 34.5 9-10 8 1/2 28 3/4 I'm not sure, never really liked his tape all that much and he didn;t have a great day.

Jonathan Taylor Wisconsin 5-10 226 4.39 4.41 -- 17 7.01 36 10-3 9 1/2 31 1/8 Game changing back like Saquon who will slide because of wear and tear.

Patrick Taylor Memphis 6-1 217 4.57 4.57 -- 15 DNP 34 10-3 9 3/8 32 1/4 Will be underdrafted and I hope he's a UDFA we can pull in because of ties to Henderson.

Ke'Shawn Vaughn Vanderbilt 5-10 214 4.51 4.52 -- DNP DNP 32 9-9 8 7/8 30 7/8 See Rico Dowdle.

Mike Warren Cincinnati 5-9 226 DNP DNP -- 16 DNP DNP DNP 9 1/8 29 1/2 6th round goalline ... will be underdrafted ... because Cincinnati.





Thoughts and comments welcome ... In my mock I take Dillon/Perine in the 4th. I am really focused on guys that get into the end zone from the 3 or 4.

This is very good work and helpful for me in learning about the players. Thanks!

My focus on a RB wouldn't be any of the three categories you mention here. I think a top 40 back is overkill or renders last years 3rd round pick in Hendo useless. I have no interest in a workhorse or GL bruiser. I too feel that we would be looking for something more complimentary to Henderson.

Who would you say are the bests backs for that task?
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you are most likely taking him in the top 2 rounds. I doubt Akers or Helaire makes it to the Rams pick in the 3rd. And I should have been more clear about what I meant by saying a compliment to Hendo.

Lets use Taylor as an example. You just don't see his blend of size, speed and vision very often. So I would immediately jump him to the top of the food chain. And I would use him 65-35 or 70-30 split with Hendo, because he is just superior in every way. same for Swift, Helaire, Akers and Dobbins.

The other guys will be around the same skill set as Hendo, so a guy like Perine or Evans or Dillon would be more of a 50-50 split.

None of them would be true bellcow backs. And as far as wasting resources, when the Rams stack their board, if a RB is the highest rated prospect on that board, thats the guy they will go with. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been placed on the board to begin with. Or they trade back and then take the highest guy they have left. I doubt any of the top 4 backs are available at 52, so I fully expect them to trade back and add picks. Probably grab an edge rusher or maybe Jordyn Brooks for ILBer. And lets be honest here. A rookie edge rusher is going to a rotational player, a ILBer might only be on the field for 60% of the snaps and subbed out. So a timeshare RB in the 2nd will see just as much action. The only pick that would be a fulltime starter IMO would be a OC or a LG. And then, they would have to beat out Noteboom, Corbett, Blythe and Allen.

As far as Bowden, I think he is best used in space, so I'd draft him as a slot WR and just gadget the heck out of him. he needs to work on his route running and the nuances of being a WR, he's just raw at this point. But if you are drafting him, you already have a plan on how to get the ball in his hands, whether its as wildcat QB or a RB or on jet sweeps, or screens. Reverses, whatever.
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you are most likely taking him in the top 2 rounds. I doubt Akers or Helaire makes it to the Rams pick in the 3rd. And I should have been more clear about what I meant by saying a compliment to Hendo.

Lets use Taylor as an example. You just don't see his blend of size, speed and vision very often. So I would immediately jump him to the top of the food chain. And I would use him 65-35 or 70-30 split with Hendo, because he is just superior in every way. same for Swift, Helaire, Akers and Dobbins.

The other guys will be around the same skill set as Hendo, so a guy like Perine or Evans or Dillon would be more of a 50-50 split.

None of them would be true bellcow backs. And as far as wasting resources, when the Rams stack their board, if a RB is the highest rated prospect on that board, thats the guy they will go with. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been placed on the board to begin with. Or they trade back and then take the highest guy they have left. I doubt any of the top 4 backs are available at 52, so I fully expect them to trade back and add picks. Probably grab an edge rusher or maybe Jordyn Brooks for ILBer. And lets be honest here. A rookie edge rusher is going to a rotational player, a ILBer might only be on the field for 60% of the snaps and subbed out. So a timeshare RB in the 2nd will see just as much action. The only pick that would be a fulltime starter IMO would be a OC or a LG. And then, they would have to beat out Noteboom, Corbett, Blythe and Allen.

As far as Bowden, I think he is best used in space, so I'd draft him as a slot WR and just gadget the heck out of him. he needs to work on his route running and the nuances of being a WR, he's just raw at this point. But if you are drafting him, you already have a plan on how to get the ball in his hands, whether its as wildcat QB or a RB or on jet sweeps, or screens. Reverses, whatever.

Ok that's definitely clearer. I think I'd prefer they roll with Hendo as the #1 RB and draft a complimentary piece a bit later.

Good point on pretty much any drafted player would be in a timeshare.

As for Bowden, we're on the same page. I think he'd be a hell of a gadget and a really good explosive piece in McVay's hands. And for those who immediately think Tavon when we say gadget, he is 50 lbs heavier with 4.38 speed so it's not the same thing. Per PFF, he broke more tackles on pure running plays than D’Andre Swift did last year. They think he should be a RB...in addition to a mere slot WR. That broken tackle metric leads me to agree with that assessment. I'd love to see him added to our offense.
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and he will bring the fight to you. I would take 53 guys with his attitude and leadership. Selfless player that played QB knowing he was hurting his development as a WR. Thats the definition of a team first guy.

And he is 6'-1" 200 lbs and runs a 4.4. So the toolbox is full. And with a deep, deep draft class he is going to be a steal. Like 4th or 5th round steal.
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and he will bring the fight to you. I would take 53 guys with his attitude and leadership. Selfless player that played QB knowing he was hurting his development as a WR. Thats the definition of a team first guy.

And he is 6'-1" 200 lbs and runs a 4.4. So the toolbox is full. And with a deep, deep draft class he is going to be a steal. Like 4th or 5th round steal.

He's my 4th round target but I'm also seeing projections for the 3rd round. I kind of like him at 104 too.
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thanks BC
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always appreciate the compliments.

Next week I should have my top 10 lists by position out and a mock.
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If we take a back, I'm only interested in the guy if he can actually pass block or is close to be able to handle it at the NFL level.

I'm getting tired of us taking guys (Kelly and Hendo) and then finding out that they can not get on the field because the coaching staff doesn't trust them.

Which back is the most NFL ready for pass blocking we might be in position to draft?
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Ke'Shaun Vaughn from Vandy knows what he is doing when blocking
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Ke'Shaun Vaughn from Vandy knows what he is doing when blocking

Thanks, OMR!

I'll keep him on my radar now.
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a few names
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and only a few. College backs are notorious for their lack of pass protection. College coaches just don't prioritize it. That said, a few guys:

Dobbins - for a 209 lb back, he sticks his nose in there. He's not my any means perfect at it, and he will miss blitzers, but its for a lack of effort.

Taylor - big back and a decent pass protector. Also a willing blocker. Should translate well to the NFL IMO.

Helaire - he has flashed the ability to do it, just never was asked to do it much.

Benjamin - surprisingly good at pass pro, although bigger rushers are going to give him a hard time.

Dillon - at 250 lbs, he holds up well.

Perine - not too bad at it, very willing, just really needs practice at it IMO.

Robinson - he was literally everything for Ill. State, so he pass blocked, and did a great job in it.
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and only a few. College backs are notorious for their lack of pass protection. College coaches just don't prioritize it. That said, a few guys:

Dobbins - for a 209 lb back, he sticks his nose in there. He's not my any means perfect at it, and he will miss blitzers, but its for a lack of effort.

Taylor - big back and a decent pass protector. Also a willing blocker. Should translate well to the NFL IMO.

Helaire - he has flashed the ability to do it, just never was asked to do it much.

Benjamin - surprisingly good at pass pro, although bigger rushers are going to give him a hard time.

Dillon - at 250 lbs, he holds up well.

Perine - not too bad at it, very willing, just really needs practice at it IMO.

Robinson - he was literally everything for Ill. State, so he pass blocked, and did a great job in it.

I've got my eye on ENO as pretty much the perfect compliment to Hendo at what should be a great spot in the draft.
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Thanks for that list ... it's a good thing to have ...
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Thanks for that list ... it's a good thing to have ...

Thanks for all the info guys!!
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and only a few. College backs are notorious for their lack of pass protection. College coaches just don't prioritize it. That said, a few guys:

Dobbins - for a 209 lb back, he sticks his nose in there. He's not my any means perfect at it, and he will miss blitzers, but its for a lack of effort.

Taylor - big back and a decent pass protector. Also a willing blocker. Should translate well to the NFL IMO.

Helaire - he has flashed the ability to do it, just never was asked to do it much.

Benjamin - surprisingly good at pass pro, although bigger rushers are going to give him a hard time.

Dillon - at 250 lbs, he holds up well.

Perine - not too bad at it, very willing, just really needs practice at it IMO.

Robinson - he was literally everything for Ill. State, so he pass blocked, and did a great job in it.

I've got my eye on ENO as pretty much the perfect compliment to Hendo at what should be a great spot in the draft.

Who is ENO?
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I've got my eye on ENO as pretty much the perfect compliment to Hendo at what should be a great spot in the draft.

Who is ENO?

Eno Benjamin
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My guys I like personally for the Rams

2nd round: Taylor then Dobbins then Akers then CE-H
3rd round: Benjamin
4th round: Perine then Dillon
5th round: Evans
6th round: Vaughn then P. Taylor
7th round: Robinson then Kelley

First of all, thanks for giving me something to while away a few minutes considering football and this crop of RBs
Second, the feedback in this thread is great, too.


The more I learn the less I know.......
But what I think, is I agree with Dead on J Taylor of Wisconsin. Not sure where he comes off the board, but even with all the extra snaps, the kid showed me so much, including the ability to lay a block (not getting much love for it either) and also having the speed to make the stretches, and then making corner and hit the nitro. Impressive.

In the real world, I think someone takes Taylor earlier than expected
Dobbins is one of those kids that we'll see slide all the way into the late 40s and then get snapped up.....
Again.....the more I think I know....the messier I get at this.

If you're not getting your main draw running back at #52, then I can't see using a pick until the 4th......

This is a fun group , and watching Dobbins flying along, and Taylor doing so well, too.....makes college football superb entertainment for me.

BTW, Dillon and BC was on TV today playing Pitt. Not to shabby. Dillon on a simple give goes 61 yards to score. That's one big kid. 250 lbs, and not flab; it's solid. DANG......

Joshua Kelley could be a kid to take a flyer on. We're going to need a kicker, but if we solve that and he's around in the 7th? Why not.
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ENO Benjamin

Thanks DZ!!
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Would love to see bulldozer Dillon
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His 40 time is slightly better than Derrick Henry’s combined time.
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