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Re: Agreed...nm

April 18, 2020 09:58AM
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maybe this guy should petition the league to add this new statlol3

Not sure what's so funny that you'd use this — lol3

That's our big contract QB stinking it up


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Because it's a joke, you could do with with every QB and look for dropped INT's they happen almost every game with every QB... what's the point? Like I said is that some sort of new stat? How bout the INT's that bounce of a WR's hands? Should they start giving those to the receivers?

Don't see the point of even bringing something like this up? Unless you're not a big Goff fanconfused smiley

I agree that you could do this with every QB. What you're essentially saying is that we need context.

The site this metric apparently came from is called QB Data Mine which implies they're compiling a ton of data on all the QBs. If someone was calculating Near INTs for every QB, then the metric would be telling and helpful.

What we would want to know is, how does Goff's 20 Near INTs compare with the rest of the QBs in the league.

Without that context it's a joke as you state; but with that context the metric is very helpful.

Yes, but it's not an official stat for a reason...typically those go down as PBU's because if the defense players could catch the ball they'd be on offensespin tounge smiley

Until then it's just fodder for debate. Which is fine I guess?

I'm sure someone somewhere has all these "dark web" stats somewhere


We all know Goff didn't play well last year, but he was far from alone.... he had one of the worst pass blocking lines in the league for much of the year

Football Outsider and PFF also don't have official metrics but they both produce very helpful info that NFL teams even subscribe to. Same for Next Gen technology. Further, most teams now have analytics departments that are compiling hundreds of metrics that aren't official.

IOW, something not being an official stat doesn't mean the data isn't very useful and informative.

Whether the defensive player caught the ball or not is not important for this particular metric since it's measuring whether the QB threw a good pass independent of other players' actions.

You are correct, but like you said, put it in context. Goff was one of the most pressured QB's in NFL in 2019.... it's not like he's sitting in a clean pocket making most of those throws.

Like I said, it's no secret Goff regressed last year from his top 5 form of 2017-2018, but there are a multitude of reasons for it. Goff didn't just roll out of bed and forget how to play QB

Doesn't mean he can't be better or that none of it was his fault either, but we've all seen what he can do with a healthy run game and better pass protection

Lets all just hope they can get back to that collectively as a team in 2020....I think we willbeer cheer smiley
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  I don't think all of them are drops, but still, Goff slumped

JimYoungblood53622April 17, 2020 04:38PM

  Re: I don't think all of them are drops, but still, Goff slumped

Rampage2K-220April 17, 2020 05:23PM

  Re: I don't think all of them are drops, but still, Goff slumped

JimYoungblood53186April 18, 2020 04:10AM

  Re: I don't think all of them are drops, but still, Goff slumped

Rampage2K-199April 18, 2020 07:48AM

  Re: I don't think all of them are drops, but still, Goff slumped

SoCalRAMatic123April 18, 2020 08:16AM

  I'm pretty sure in the QBR rating those don't count against the QB (nm)

Speed_Kills123April 18, 2020 10:06AM

  Re: Yes and no...

dzrams132April 18, 2020 08:34AM

  Re: Yes and no...

Rampage2K-141April 18, 2020 08:42AM

  Re: Yes and no...

dzrams147April 18, 2020 09:17AM

  Re: Yes and no...

Rampage2K-118April 18, 2020 09:44AM

  Re: Agreed...nm

dzrams120April 18, 2020 09:58AM

  No joke

JimYoungblood53107April 18, 2020 08:52AM

  Re: No joke

Ramsdude108April 18, 2020 08:59AM

  It is? I didn't know that. Tell me more.

JimYoungblood53117April 18, 2020 12:45PM

  Re: It is? I didn't know that. Tell me more.

Ramsdude115April 18, 2020 01:12PM

  Re: No joke

Rampage2K-113April 18, 2020 09:00AM

  It's not an official stat

Ram_Ruler153April 18, 2020 07:01AM

  Re: It's not an official stat

moklerman141April 18, 2020 07:20AM

  Re: I don't think all of them are drops, but still, Goff slumped

Classicalwit203April 17, 2020 06:13PM

  Re: I don't think all of them are drops, but still, Goff slumped

Ramsdude150April 18, 2020 08:26AM

  Re: not sure but you could check the link

Speed_Kills105April 18, 2020 10:11AM

  Re: not sure but you could check the link

Ramsdude91April 18, 2020 11:12AM

  FootballOutsiders does a very good piece on this annually

LMU93115April 18, 2020 10:10AM