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RAMSINCE ARNETT
Tom Brady would do that today Maybe not punch at least a slap ha ha
He never has.
Neither did Montana, Bradshaw, Staubach, Rodgers, Brees, Manning, Elway, Marino etc. etc. etc. Neither did Graham, Unitas, Starr, Dawson, Luckman, Baugh, etc. etc. etc.
In fact no one does that.
Of the thousands of qbs who have played in the NFL, one was named. No one else.
Yet you guys somehow think it's common and acceptable.
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Bobby Layne won 3 Championships with the Lions. He was outspoken, a leader, and a winner. So he had that tough guy personality. And it worked for him in that environment. Judging people according to todays standards is folly.
And we don't know everything about how players behaved before the 60's. I've heard stories of Van Brocklin berating his OL, Unitas as well. But Layne was a different breed all together.
My guess is that 100 years from now that the way we see things will be viewed as barbaric by that society.
Max, honestly, I don't care about any of his team's accomplishments. All you did was prove to me he was a jerk.
And there are already things in our society many already consider barbaric. Fine with me.
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To you, he was a jerk. That’s fine. We all have our own opinions.
I remember in college a prof I had thought Lombardi was a jerk. That was controversial at the time. I’m sure a lot more people think Lombardi was a jerk in today’s society.
I don't. I don't know anyone who does. Lombardi did a lot of things, including how he handled various players, that were way ahead of his time. For example he knew up to 3 different players of his were gay, and not only accepted it, he protected them. And he was solidly behind racial justice.
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“You can’t play for me if you have any kind of prejudice.” Recognizing that the black players on his team experienced discrimination in Green Bay, an overwhelmingly white town, Lombardi made it known among local taverns, restaurants, and landlords that if his players were not treated equally that there would be hell to pay.
Lombardi repeatedly told his wife Marie to shut up in public. Some people were turned off by that.
I know a lot more about Lombardi than most people. He was a idol to my father, I got all the Fordham stories, and met Lombardi when he came to my catholic HS for an awards banquet. (Yeah, I’m old). Tim Mara went to same HS, so Wellington would bring friends to the dinners. I’m Italian-American from NY, there’s nothing you can tell me about Lombardi that I either don’t know or haven’t seen first hand. And you wouldn’t understand it unless you’re Italian-American.
All that may be. But it doesn't change why I admire him.
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It’s nice that you do.
I admire him for more personal reasons.
~ max ~
“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton