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October 14, 2019 05:07PM
Column: NFL’s failure to understand L.A. is hurting experience for Rams and Chargers fans

By ARASH MARKAZICOLUMNIST
OCT. 14, 2019 5:48 PM
The first time my name appeared in the Los Angeles Times was Oct. 17, 1997. I was a student at Notre Dame High School in Sherman Oaks, and Bill Plaschke had come to our fourth-period U.S. history class a couple days earlier to pick our brains for a column.

He wanted to know what it was like growing up in L.A. without an NFL team. The Raiders and Rams had played their final games in the L.A. area three years earlier when we were in grade school, and he asked us whether we missed the NFL.

We hadn’t.

Most of us were more interested in Shaquille O’Neal and the Lakers or Mike Piazza and the Dodgers than we were in yearning for teams that had left town when we were kids.


“Are you listening, NFL?” Plaschke wrote. “This is the sound of future ticket and merchandising dollars slipping away with every year you stay away. This is a generation that is being lost.”

The NFL didn’t listen. The league neglected a generation of fans before finally returning to Los Angeles in 2016 — 21 years after leaving — and it’s still paying the price for its absence.

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By the time the Rams moved back in 2016 and the Chargers moved here the following year, the generation they had lost had all grown up rooting for other teams in other cities or simply had no interest in the NFL.

We were fine. While the NFL was gone, the Lakers won five NBA championships, the Kings won two Stanley Cups, the Galaxy won five MLS Cups, the Sparks won back-to-back WNBA titles, the USC football team won a couple of national championships, the UCLA men’s basketball team played in three straight Final Fours, and the Clippers became a perennial playoff team. Fans in Anaheim celebrated the Angels winning their first World Series and the Ducks winning their first Stanley Cup. With the rise of fantasy football and the NFL RedZone channel, no one in L.A. was heartbroken about not having a real hometown team. Their fantasy football teams more than made up for it on Sundays.

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The league didn’t do much to maintain a good relationship with the city after leaving town. It actually did everything in its power to fracture what was left of it with each passing year. During the 21 years L.A. was without a team, 22 new stadiums were built for 23 teams, many using the leverage of possibly relocating to Los Angeles to get public money to finance those stadiums. During that time, L.A. was nothing more than a pawn. We were shown enough artist renderings of failed NFL stadiums to fill the Los Angeles County Museum of Art.

From 1995 to 2015, the NFL staged 31 preseason and regular-season games around the globe in the hopes of cultivating interest in the league in cities such as London and Mexico City. Do you know how many games the league held in Los Angeles to cultivate interest in the country’s second-biggest market? Zero.

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Steelers fans at Dignity Health Sports Park celebrate after Pittsburgh scores a first-half touchdown against the Chargers on Sunday.(Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times)
The end result is a home-field experience for the Rams and Chargers that still feels very much like an NFL international game in London or Mexico City. Walk around the tailgates at the Coliseum or Dignity Health Sports Park and you’ll see plenty of people wearing the opponent’s colors, but you’ll also see jerseys of random teams such as the Cowboys, Patriots, Raiders and other teams that aren’t playing anywhere near L.A. There are plenty of NFL fans in L.A., they just might not be fans of the teams that now claim the city as their home.

This past weekend marked the final time the Rams and Chargers play at home on the same Sunday. Next season, they will both move into the new $5 billion SoFi Stadium being built in Inglewood. Not only did both teams lose, dropping their combined record this season to 5-7 after combining to go 25-7 last season, but their fans were outnumbered at their home stadiums. It was closer to 50-50 for the Rams-49ers game and probably 90-10 in favor of Pittsburgh for the Steelers-Chargers game.

Both teams expected as much going into Sunday and project it will be just as bad for their next home games when the Rams face the Chicago Bears on Nov. 17 and the Chargers take on the Green Bay Packers on Nov. 3. The “get-in” price for Sunday’s 49ers-Rams game was $135, while the cheapest ticket for the Steelers-Chargers game was $250. The cheapest ticket for the Packers-Chargers game is $300.

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To put that into perspective, the Chargers are selling season tickets next year for as low as $50 per game. In other words, a Chargers fan could pay off their season tickets for next year in the new stadium by reselling just the Steelers and Packers games this season. It was a deal apparently too good to pass up for most Chargers season-ticket holders.

It’s a bad look, but it’s one the NFL created by looking the other way for more than two decades when it came to the Los Angeles market. It’s not an indictment on Los Angeles as an NFL city but rather an indictment on the NFL’s failure to understand Los Angeles.

Diehard fans who are going to pay hundreds of dollars for a ticket and thousands of dollars for a seat license aren’t created overnight. That type of loyalty and fandom is built over generations, and the NFL robbed this city of a team for an entire generation. It would be foolish for the league to think it could make up for that in a couple years.

It takes time, but if the NFL thinks it can fast-forward that process, it would simply be its latest miscalculation when it comes to understanding a city that has no problem treating the league the same way it was treated for years.

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Arash Markazi is a sports columnist with the Los Angeles Times. Before that, he was a senior writer at ESPN for nine years. Markazi grew up in Los Angeles and graduated from USC in 2004, after which he worked as a staff writer for Sports Illustrated for five years. While at USC he won the Allan Malamud Memorial Scholarship and the Jim Murray Memorial Scholarship, named after his two favorite sports columnists at the Los Angeles Times.

Its not about fans traveling here to support their team or fans selling their tickets so they can go see a play instead. Its about a fostered culture in L.A. itself. I actually think there is another element to the equation. During those 21 years our population here increase by several million and these people brought with them not only their fandom from the football cities they left but also in other sports such as soccer. And as we know it is far more difficult to give up your football fandom -hence my wife and I flying to St. Louis to see the Rams. So we have all these Steeler, Niner, Packer, Bear, etc. fans living here just waiting for the return of NFL football-not necessarily the return of the Rams.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/14/2019 05:37PM by waterfield.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Awful Awful experience

Crazylegs1682October 13, 2019 06:25PM

  Were you at the game live?

Ram49332October 13, 2019 06:31PM

  Re: Were you at the game live?

Crazylegs384October 13, 2019 06:51PM

  Terrible

Ram49370October 13, 2019 06:54PM

  And now for what the 9ers said about the L.A. crowd

Ram49318October 13, 2019 06:58PM

  Re: man that was just awful

Speed_Kills331October 13, 2019 07:11PM

  Apparently the Rams house was on AirBnB

RamUK355October 14, 2019 09:49AM

  Re: Apparently the Rams house was on AirBnB

waterfield292October 14, 2019 09:55AM

  Re yeah I mean that was crazy

Speed_Kills279October 14, 2019 11:38AM

  Re: And now for what the 9ers said about the L.A. crowd

Ekern55319October 14, 2019 11:03AM

  I don't know Tim

waterfield329October 13, 2019 07:27PM

  Re: I don't know Tim

Crazylegs229October 14, 2019 08:29AM

  Don't live there, don't have season tickets.....

roman18228October 14, 2019 08:56AM

  Re: Don't live there, don't have season tickets.....

waterfield242October 14, 2019 09:50AM

  I think maybe yesterday they travelled

RamUK421October 14, 2019 09:59AM

  We went to the panther game as well...

roman18295October 14, 2019 10:22AM

  Go to Florida baseball games

Hazlet Hacksaw284October 14, 2019 10:47AM

  Re: Don't live there, don't have season tickets.....

napoli189October 14, 2019 12:16PM

  Re: I don't know Tim

waterfield247October 14, 2019 09:42AM

  Our owner doesn't count his money....

roman18408October 14, 2019 10:30AM

  Re: Awful Awful experience

Ekern55231October 14, 2019 11:00AM

  SF and LA fans

LMU93187October 14, 2019 04:55PM

  Re: Awful Awful experience

Rampage2K-307October 14, 2019 11:57AM

  This is what I saw

Crazylegs242October 14, 2019 03:08PM

  Re: This is what I saw

Rampage2K-223October 14, 2019 03:34PM

  Re: This is what I saw

Crazylegs272October 14, 2019 04:25PM

  Re: This is what I saw

RAMpant Defense286October 14, 2019 03:48PM

  Re: This is what I saw

Crazylegs425October 14, 2019 04:40PM

  Re: This is what I saw

RAMpant Defense328October 14, 2019 05:04PM

  And here is an article addressing precisely what you said

waterfield285October 14, 2019 05:07PM

  Sadly, the younger gen cares more about their fantasy team...

Rampage2K-190October 14, 2019 05:30PM

  This is why the Rams left the Los Angeles area 30 years ago

mikeguman356October 14, 2019 05:29PM

  Not really..........

Rampage2K-180October 14, 2019 05:35PM

  And exactly why.......

Ramgator265October 14, 2019 06:00PM

  Re: And exactly why.......

Rampage2K-252October 14, 2019 06:08PM