1. umm..my "empirical evidence" is the same as yours. watching and reading about the rams. againt the differnt is that you apparently what to take a statement on face value rather than using logic to asses its validity.
2. maybe. but once again. people WILL disagree. its inevitable. there will NEVER be 100 percent agreement on 100 percent of cases. NEVER.
3. im not trying to save anybody. i like snead even if he got up on the table and jumped up and down to select GROB. the GROB cases is simply an example. my issue is that you characterize the draft process as a complete consensus on every single pick with absolute certainty leaving no room for alternative explanations based on a couple of coachspeak comments and without having ever stepped foot in the draft room.
4. clearly a different universe which once again illustrates the point.
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i have no idea what that means.
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It means it's a vague and abstract statement that is asserted independently of any actual empirical evidence. It's just a way of supporting a belief. It's like saying that humans are flawed AND THEREFORE my spouse is cheating on me. The former statement is way to vague and general to lead to the specific conclusion in any particular case.
Humans are not robots but there ARE organizations that are well enough designed so that the processes they rely on do not become bent or broken. Not every system or organization goes wrong, and the truth is, more often than not, if they do, we hear about it. We've certainly heard about Rams dysfunctions over the years (eg. Devaney did not want to draft Avery and Zygmunt over-ruled him).
My own view of all this is simple. I do not see the GR pick as the great catastrophe some do. It's now much more common for high-picked OL to be disappointments. Therefore I don't see any particular need to explain it away in the name of some kind of blame/vindication logic. I think Snead was as in on the GR pick as he was the Everett pick and the Gurley pick and the Hav pick and so on, and nothing indicates anything to the contrary. So I don't need to "save" him from the GR pick. I am both a big-time Snead advocate and have been for a long time, AND someone who sees him as equally in on the GR pick as Fisher and Boudreau.
So we're just in different universes over this one.
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