It might be a tryout for Countess or Christian to start in 2019
| December 28, 2018 08:30AM |
This could turn out to be very meaningful experience. This is an opportunity to take a job. It's an important step. I imagine you are right that it will be Countess but it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Christian has gotten a lot more playing time but he is more of SS in the box. Christian is faster than Joyner though. Both Countess and Christian are faster than Joyner on paper. But pro days tend to be faster times due to preferable surfaces and playing speed with the pads on matters. Countess has the shuttle time which indicates ability with change of direction. That seems useful for coverage.
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SS MARQUI CHRISTIAN MIDWESTERN ST. LONE STAR
Marqui Christian
DRAFTED BY: CARDINALS ROUND 5 PICK 30 OVERALL 167
GRADE 5.24
DRAFT ANALYSIS:
Christian was a super-productive small school box safety with some developmental traits to be a reliable backup and special teams player. --Mark Dulgerian
5'10" HEIGHT
196LBS. WEIGHT
OVERVIEW
Christian won the Cliff Harris Award as nation's top small-college defensive player in 2015.
PRO DAY RESULTS
40-yard dash: 4.46 seconds (with the wind)
Vertical: 35 1/2 inches
Broad jump: 10 feet
Short shuttle: 4.27 seconds
3-cone: 6.85 seconds
Bench: 14 reps of 225 pounds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Ran a faster 40 than scouts expected at his pro day and there is an outside shot that he has another gear to access. Instinctive and a tape eater. Shows feel for the flow of the play. Reads quarterbacks fairly well and recognizes pattern development. Will restrict windows in zone coverage. Tough and has the stomach for box work. Loves to hit. Has ability to physically reroute and bang tight ends off the line of scrimmage. Will come downhill to stick his nose in as a run supporter.
WEAKNESSES Could be limited in his scheme fit. Played some single-high safety in college, but tape shows a lack of range and desired play speed to be trusted as a center fielder on the next level. Average to below average man cover skill. Ball skills are just average. Doesn't have the plus burst or break on the throws to impact enough catches.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6 or 7
BOTTOM LINE While Christian might be somewhat limited to box safety duties, he's got the toughness and instincts for the position and has the ability to handle box responsibilities on an NFL level. His angular frame looks like it can handle even more muscle and he has the attention of teams who are looking for a player with his skill set. Christian has a good shot of hearing his name called on day three and of making an NFL team as a backup safety with kick coverage ability right out of the gate.
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CB BLAKE COUNTESS AUBURN SEC
Blake Countess
DRAFTED BY: EAGLES ROUND 6 PICK 21 OVERALL 196
GRADE 5.06
DRAFT ANALYSIS:
Countess has experience at CB, S, and nickel at Auburn. Philly can try him out at special teams then decide where they want him to compete going into the season. --Mark Dulgerian
5'9" HEIGHT
184LBS. WEIGHT
OVERVIEW
Transferred from Michigan to Auburn for his final collegiate season in 2015, and started all 13 games. Played both boundary corner and safety. In 2014, he was an honorable mention All-Big Ten selection.
PRO DAY RESULTS
40-yard dash: 4.48 seconds
Vertical: 36 1/2 inches
Broad jump: 10 feet, 1 inch
Short shuttle: 4.19 seconds
3-cone: 6.85 seconds
Bench: 21 reps of 225 pounds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Has very good position versatility. Is highly intelligent and aware on the field. Instinctive with good short area quickness to match up against slot receivers. Processes quickly and understands the game.
WEAKNESSES Size is a concern. Smaller cornerback who can be matched up by bigger slot targets. Long speed is very average. Could have some issues against bigger, NFL running backs when forced into action as tackler.
BOTTOM LINE Has the intelligence and instincts to challenge for a roster spot as a slot corner, but will have to rely on quickness over size and speed if he is to win a spot.
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CB LAMARCUS JOYNER FLORIDA ST. ACC
Lamarcus Joyner
DRAFTED BY: RAMS ROUND 2 PICK 9 OVERALL 41
COMBINE RESULTS
GRADE 5.26
40-yard dash: 4.55 SEC
Bench:14 REPS
Vertical: 37.5 INCH
Broad jump: 124.0 INCH
3-cone: 7.26 SEC
Short shuttle: 4.40 SEC
DRAFT ANALYSIS:
"This makes sense for this franchise. Joyner is a cornerback/safety/nickel defensive back. He can do all kinds of good things for St. Louis. This is one of the most explosive kids in this draft. Some say he's too small at 5-foot-8, but put the tape on ... he explodes out of his breaks. His feet are outstanding." -- Mike Mayock
5'8" HEIGHT
31 1/2" ARM LENGTH
184LBS. WEIGHT
9 1/2" HANDS
OVERVIEW
Elite defensive back recruit out of Florida prep powerhouse St. Thomas Aquinas, where he played cornerback and piled up 1,090 all-purpose yards on just 79 touches en route to being named USA Today's National Defensive Player of the Year. Arrived at Florida State in 2010 and played in all 14 games as a true freshman, recording 23 tackles, three pass breakups and one interception. Returned 16 kickoffs for 329 yards (20.6-yard average). Started all 13 games at free safety in '11 and tallied 54-3-4 with two tackles for loss and one sack. Was 13-397-0 (30.5) returning kickoffs. Moved into the strong safety role in '12, starting 14 games and totaling 51-5-1 with 1.5 tackles for loss. Was 18-424-0 (23.6) as a kickoff returner. Was a Jim Thorpe Award finalist in '13, starting six times at cornerback and eight times in a nickel position for the national champions -- posted 69-4-2 with seven tackles for loss, 5.5 sacks and three forced fumbles. Also went 5-110-0 (22.0) returning kickoffs. His sack total ranked first among NCAA defensive backs. Did not miss a game in his four years at Florida State, concluding his time there with 41 consecutive starts.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Instinctive and anticipatory. Advanced understanding from the back end -- makes subtle, pre-snap adjustments and diagnoses plays. Steps downhill quickly. Outstanding overall production in all facets. Good competitive playing speed -- runs as fast as he needs to. Very good football-playing demeanor -- confident and opportunistic. Showed up in big games and made clutch plays (see Clemson). Times up the blitz very well and plays bigger than his size. Has contributed as a gunner and displayed good short-area burst in the return game. Exceptional work ethic and leadership traits. Respected, vocal team leader with an infectious attitude that can unite a locker room. Has been extremely durable, especially given his size and playing style.
WEAKNESSES Average athlete. Tight-hipped and rounds off breaks -- not sudden. Lacks foot speed to carry receivers vertically from the slot and is seldom placed in situations where he can be distressed in downfield coverage. Lacks size and stature for press coverage. Can be out-quicked by shifty slot receivers. Marginal recovery speed and catch-up burst when he gets caught peeking. Struggles to match up with size and speed in man coverage. Makes mental mistakes too much in banjo coverage and struggles to sort out bunch sets. Does not have a body ideally built to withstand a 16-game season.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 4-5
BOTTOM LINE A terrific college football player and galvanizing leader for a national champion, Joyner is a tweener lacking unique physical traits for the pro game, and his dimensions leave him vulnerable to mismatches. However, he possesses special intangibles which could enable him to make his mark on special teams and compete for a sub-package role as a short-hole plugger where he can make plays on the ball in front of him. Has a make-it attitude and winning mentality that could allow him to overcome his physical limitations. Compares favorably to Panthers 2009 seventh-rounder Captain Munnerlyn.
-Nolan Nawrocki
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2018 08:35AM by Rams Junkie.
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SS MARQUI CHRISTIAN MIDWESTERN ST. LONE STAR
Marqui Christian
DRAFTED BY: CARDINALS ROUND 5 PICK 30 OVERALL 167
GRADE 5.24
DRAFT ANALYSIS:
Christian was a super-productive small school box safety with some developmental traits to be a reliable backup and special teams player. --Mark Dulgerian
5'10" HEIGHT
196LBS. WEIGHT
OVERVIEW
Christian won the Cliff Harris Award as nation's top small-college defensive player in 2015.
PRO DAY RESULTS
40-yard dash: 4.46 seconds (with the wind)
Vertical: 35 1/2 inches
Broad jump: 10 feet
Short shuttle: 4.27 seconds
3-cone: 6.85 seconds
Bench: 14 reps of 225 pounds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Ran a faster 40 than scouts expected at his pro day and there is an outside shot that he has another gear to access. Instinctive and a tape eater. Shows feel for the flow of the play. Reads quarterbacks fairly well and recognizes pattern development. Will restrict windows in zone coverage. Tough and has the stomach for box work. Loves to hit. Has ability to physically reroute and bang tight ends off the line of scrimmage. Will come downhill to stick his nose in as a run supporter.
WEAKNESSES Could be limited in his scheme fit. Played some single-high safety in college, but tape shows a lack of range and desired play speed to be trusted as a center fielder on the next level. Average to below average man cover skill. Ball skills are just average. Doesn't have the plus burst or break on the throws to impact enough catches.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6 or 7
BOTTOM LINE While Christian might be somewhat limited to box safety duties, he's got the toughness and instincts for the position and has the ability to handle box responsibilities on an NFL level. His angular frame looks like it can handle even more muscle and he has the attention of teams who are looking for a player with his skill set. Christian has a good shot of hearing his name called on day three and of making an NFL team as a backup safety with kick coverage ability right out of the gate.
[www.nfl.com]
CB BLAKE COUNTESS AUBURN SEC
Blake Countess
DRAFTED BY: EAGLES ROUND 6 PICK 21 OVERALL 196
GRADE 5.06
DRAFT ANALYSIS:
Countess has experience at CB, S, and nickel at Auburn. Philly can try him out at special teams then decide where they want him to compete going into the season. --Mark Dulgerian
5'9" HEIGHT
184LBS. WEIGHT
OVERVIEW
Transferred from Michigan to Auburn for his final collegiate season in 2015, and started all 13 games. Played both boundary corner and safety. In 2014, he was an honorable mention All-Big Ten selection.
PRO DAY RESULTS
40-yard dash: 4.48 seconds
Vertical: 36 1/2 inches
Broad jump: 10 feet, 1 inch
Short shuttle: 4.19 seconds
3-cone: 6.85 seconds
Bench: 21 reps of 225 pounds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Has very good position versatility. Is highly intelligent and aware on the field. Instinctive with good short area quickness to match up against slot receivers. Processes quickly and understands the game.
WEAKNESSES Size is a concern. Smaller cornerback who can be matched up by bigger slot targets. Long speed is very average. Could have some issues against bigger, NFL running backs when forced into action as tackler.
BOTTOM LINE Has the intelligence and instincts to challenge for a roster spot as a slot corner, but will have to rely on quickness over size and speed if he is to win a spot.
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CB LAMARCUS JOYNER FLORIDA ST. ACC
Lamarcus Joyner
DRAFTED BY: RAMS ROUND 2 PICK 9 OVERALL 41
COMBINE RESULTS
GRADE 5.26
40-yard dash: 4.55 SEC
Bench:14 REPS
Vertical: 37.5 INCH
Broad jump: 124.0 INCH
3-cone: 7.26 SEC
Short shuttle: 4.40 SEC
DRAFT ANALYSIS:
"This makes sense for this franchise. Joyner is a cornerback/safety/nickel defensive back. He can do all kinds of good things for St. Louis. This is one of the most explosive kids in this draft. Some say he's too small at 5-foot-8, but put the tape on ... he explodes out of his breaks. His feet are outstanding." -- Mike Mayock
5'8" HEIGHT
31 1/2" ARM LENGTH
184LBS. WEIGHT
9 1/2" HANDS
OVERVIEW
Elite defensive back recruit out of Florida prep powerhouse St. Thomas Aquinas, where he played cornerback and piled up 1,090 all-purpose yards on just 79 touches en route to being named USA Today's National Defensive Player of the Year. Arrived at Florida State in 2010 and played in all 14 games as a true freshman, recording 23 tackles, three pass breakups and one interception. Returned 16 kickoffs for 329 yards (20.6-yard average). Started all 13 games at free safety in '11 and tallied 54-3-4 with two tackles for loss and one sack. Was 13-397-0 (30.5) returning kickoffs. Moved into the strong safety role in '12, starting 14 games and totaling 51-5-1 with 1.5 tackles for loss. Was 18-424-0 (23.6) as a kickoff returner. Was a Jim Thorpe Award finalist in '13, starting six times at cornerback and eight times in a nickel position for the national champions -- posted 69-4-2 with seven tackles for loss, 5.5 sacks and three forced fumbles. Also went 5-110-0 (22.0) returning kickoffs. His sack total ranked first among NCAA defensive backs. Did not miss a game in his four years at Florida State, concluding his time there with 41 consecutive starts.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Instinctive and anticipatory. Advanced understanding from the back end -- makes subtle, pre-snap adjustments and diagnoses plays. Steps downhill quickly. Outstanding overall production in all facets. Good competitive playing speed -- runs as fast as he needs to. Very good football-playing demeanor -- confident and opportunistic. Showed up in big games and made clutch plays (see Clemson). Times up the blitz very well and plays bigger than his size. Has contributed as a gunner and displayed good short-area burst in the return game. Exceptional work ethic and leadership traits. Respected, vocal team leader with an infectious attitude that can unite a locker room. Has been extremely durable, especially given his size and playing style.
WEAKNESSES Average athlete. Tight-hipped and rounds off breaks -- not sudden. Lacks foot speed to carry receivers vertically from the slot and is seldom placed in situations where he can be distressed in downfield coverage. Lacks size and stature for press coverage. Can be out-quicked by shifty slot receivers. Marginal recovery speed and catch-up burst when he gets caught peeking. Struggles to match up with size and speed in man coverage. Makes mental mistakes too much in banjo coverage and struggles to sort out bunch sets. Does not have a body ideally built to withstand a 16-game season.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 4-5
BOTTOM LINE A terrific college football player and galvanizing leader for a national champion, Joyner is a tweener lacking unique physical traits for the pro game, and his dimensions leave him vulnerable to mismatches. However, he possesses special intangibles which could enable him to make his mark on special teams and compete for a sub-package role as a short-hole plugger where he can make plays on the ball in front of him. Has a make-it attitude and winning mentality that could allow him to overcome his physical limitations. Compares favorably to Panthers 2009 seventh-rounder Captain Munnerlyn.
-Nolan Nawrocki
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2018 08:35AM by Rams Junkie.
