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Re: Goff under pressure in 2017

December 20, 2018 12:21AM
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2017. How is he doing now? Do you think he's handling pressure this year as well as he did last year?

That's an innate thing. Handling pressure. The question is how much, and that means the issue is the OL.

So the issue is the amount of pressure. (Chicago--a bit more than 50%).

I can't think of any qb who has handled THAT level of pressure. (Maybe you can name some?)

So yeah given decently effective protection--something better than miserably bad--and he's fine. He has already demonstrated that.

Some people strawman that and say okay so he needs elite protection. Naw that's not what's being said. He needs protection that's better than the kind that allows pressure on 50% of his throws. Cause, again...NO qb handles that. (Maybe Wilson?)


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If it's an innate thing, why did you bring it up?

To what level of pressure are you referring? You suggest that Goff is under miserably bad protection and that he's effective given decently effective protection but is any of that quantified? By what metric are you measuring said protection? Is there a graph showing that metric in context to other QB's?

I know some sites show "under pressure" splits but are they defined universally or are they subjective?

I haven't seen any actual numbers so I can't answer your question but I don't feel like the pressure that Goff has been under has been excessive to the point of preventing him from making positive plays if he was making good decisions and good passes.
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