December 12, 2018 06:01AM
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zn
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max
You have your viewpoint, which can’t be disproven.

I see it differently, from my viewpoint which also can’t be disproven.

Eventually, we may have enough data to do so. It won’t be this season.

You can't just throw out the Detroit game and form a false pattern.

Neglect the Detroit game, where he had the exact same issues, and you end up with the wrong picture.

Actually if you add up his 6 total subpar games from 2017-2018 cold is a factor in only 2 of them

Using qb rating I am counting only games of below 80

2017
1. Seattle at Rams, qb rating 48.9
2. Arz at Rams, qb rating 75.8
3. Rams at Minn, qb rating 79.2

TDs v. Ints in those games: 1 v. 3

2018
1. at Den, qb rating 58.8
2. at Det, qb rating 68.6
3. at Chi, qb rating 19.1

TDs v. Ints in those games: 1 v 6

The 2018 games all have in common what I say they do.

Of all 6 games combined cold is a factor in only 2 of them.

I think the whole "cold game" thing ... it's a factor probably but that's just 2 games out of 6.


/./...

My viewpoint is that Goff has a real problem in the cold. The ball is different in the cold, hard as a rock and much more slippery. Small freezing hands is a problem he has to deal with. And the fact that he is never gonna spend time practicing to handle this problem means it's unlikely to go away anytime soon. Now maybe if he played in Cleveland he would get better at it, kind of like Brian Sipe. But there is no need for Goff to do that when he is playing almost all his games outside of cold conditions.

We have seen him play in 2 games this year in freezing temps. Thats all the data we have of him in freezing conditions (under 32 degrees). He was bad in both games. I think adding other games outside of those conditions to prove that its not cold is a bad analysis.

When you design something to work in freezing temps, you must test it and pass it in freezing temps. You will never get anything certified otherwise.

So I say again, let him show us he can play a decent game in freezing temps. Until then, he hasn't passed the test.



~ max ~
“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2018 06:04AM by max.
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  Jared Goff glad to be in out of the cold

RamBill1083December 11, 2018 06:02AM

  what a baby! nm

Hazlet Hacksaw200December 11, 2018 07:33AM

  apparently Mitch Tribisky doesn't like the cold either....

SunTzu_vs_Camus198December 11, 2018 07:37AM

  At least he's honest.

Ramgator206December 11, 2018 07:40AM

  QBs hate the cold & rain...it makes gripping the ball a beast!!!

SunTzu_vs_Camus281December 11, 2018 07:40AM

  Re: Jared Goff glad to be in out of the cold

Rams43206December 11, 2018 07:43AM

  Cold weather bs....old school bs...warm weather only or domes

stlrams13215December 11, 2018 02:09PM

  Re: Cold weather bs....old school bs...warm weather only or domes

waterfield191December 11, 2018 03:29PM

  Yes, I did cringe after reading this NM

six2stack256December 12, 2018 04:18AM

  sacrilege

wv ram224December 12, 2018 05:24AM

  Re: So given his struggles

Speed_Kills202December 11, 2018 03:06PM

  I was thinking the same thing....

GlacieRam184December 11, 2018 03:20PM

  I don't buy this at all ...for very good reasons

zn338December 12, 2018 04:34AM

  It’s all moot until he has a good game in the cold

max285December 12, 2018 04:50AM

  don't agree and again for VERY good reasons

zn184December 12, 2018 05:28AM

  I'm not sure what you're arguing

max180December 12, 2018 06:01AM

  Re: I'm not sure what you're arguing

jim beam317December 12, 2018 06:11AM

  I'm arguing that 2 games is not a trend

zn360December 12, 2018 06:40AM

  Goff didn’t say it, but he doesn’t have to...

max283December 12, 2018 04:45AM

  2019 potential cold weather games

LMU93223December 12, 2018 06:18AM

  Re: Jared Goff glad to be in out of the cold

Rams43186December 12, 2018 06:26AM

  So am I

waterfield164December 12, 2018 07:29AM