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Goff's a natural, effortless passer...ya got it or ya don't...

July 30, 2018 01:16AM
There is a whole group of QB mental tools that are not talked about but can only be viewed as how they manifest in play.
The human brain's uncanny ability to process 3D objects amid a riot of movement during a play....and can culminate in...stellar accuracy.
One thing that good QBs have is good SitAw...Situational Awareness along with superb spacial relations & crazy depth perception. Then, a QB has to have a decent enough grasp of their own limitations to know what their body/arm can DO in those crazy situations.

examples:
1) GREAT physical talent..solid throwing skills...DECENT spacial coordination & depth perception. (Wentz, Cam, Roethlisberger, Bradford, Eli, Carr, Farvre/had alot of #3 too just not a huge amount of #3. Actually, most current QBs are this group, imo) They have the obvious tools and coaches think they can train #3 into them over time...but I feel they cannot. It is in the DNA and one has it or not. It can be slightly refined and one can get better...but it's like changing a QBs throwing motion...it's pure folly. imo It can be tweaked to maximize their own ability, but not changed outright.

2) AVERAGE physical talent but FANTASTIC spacial coordination & depth perception. (Rivers, PManning, KWarner, Keenum, etc)

3) This small group that has SUPERIOR in BOTH aspects of 1 & 2. (Rodgers, Elway, Brees, JimKelly, Cousins? Romo,etc...and Goff
.....which is why I was okay with Goff over Wentz.
Rodgers & Brees are some of the best I've ever seen...Elway too...just fluid passers, beautiful to watch in motion like a dancer. Even the bad passes are gorgeous! lol

That's not to say any other style cannot be effective, obviously, they can be. Most QBs find ways to compensate and work around their limitations from the 1st and 2nd categories...and can, therefore, be very successful at times.

Some guys are just ugly, but effective passerslike PManning, PRivers, etc...cuz they made up for it by the parts of their brain that allowed them to process all that movement and enough arm talent to get the job done with aplomb despite physical shortcomings as a passer. KWarner was another like Peyton & Rivers who had exceptional depth/spacial awareness to put the ball where they wanted(within certain distances).

Then there are QBs with the stellar physical ability....but maybe NOT as good depth/spacial stuff...and you get a guy who's scattershot / almost accurate intermittently and a frustrating player. I'm rambling...but essentially there's the gift of throwing an object...then the gift of the spatial awareness to be accurate with that throw...then, the few guys who have BOTH....and sprinkle some fearlessness(no amygdala) in there and there is the potential for a special player. Goff has all those things...even when he was playing poorly as a rookie...his mistakes/bad passes were more from adjusting to the NFL game...cuz I still saw the player we see today. He was doing all those things in his rookie season...even in college.

So many things have to fall into place for a QB to be successful....but the ones I like to watch are the "Naturals".
Kinda like the "Supers" from the Invincible movie! winking smiley

Man, I'm sorry I rambled on about this but it fascinates me...yet is very hard to put into words to convey. It doesn't help that my brain ain't what it used to be(chemo ain't just for breakfast anymore! lol) Please forgive my shortcomings in communications...but it's a lot like MGladwell's "Blink" concept...where you have this gut feeling and don't know how you know, but ya just do....after spending thousands of hours watching & thinking about what you are seeing....all the while, analyzing one's own experience playing the position. I was #1 type and a bit of the #3 as my strengths...but could not process fast enough. I had a slow head...I used to call it. .But I could put the ball anywhere on the field and had a lightning release...
but NOTHING else necessary to play the position!!! LOL
I always wanted to make the most challenging throw I could until a QB coach came over and told me, "fantastic pass you just made!....BUT...remember, if you have to make a great pass...you've made the wrong decision". I knew I would never get much farther unless I could overcome that flaw. and I didn't! winking smiley




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  Excellent 7/27 camp report by 8to12...

Rams431175July 28, 2018 11:57AM

  Re: Excellent 7/27 camp report by 8to12...

ABQRam361July 28, 2018 02:36PM

  Today VinnyB said Goff looks fantastic.

max435July 28, 2018 02:42PM

  I'm going to inch out a little farther on the Goff limb.

Saguaro417July 28, 2018 02:49PM

  I see that too

max310July 28, 2018 03:03PM

  Re: I see that too

Anonymous User246July 29, 2018 03:16AM

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OCRAM85342July 28, 2018 06:26PM

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zn294July 28, 2018 06:36PM

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OCRAM85284July 28, 2018 06:51PM

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Steve283July 29, 2018 02:27AM

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oldmanram241July 29, 2018 03:15AM

  Goff has a great arm

AlbaNY_Ram287July 29, 2018 04:30AM

  Re: Goff has a great arm

Steve250July 29, 2018 04:33AM

  Re: Goff has a great arm

zn264July 29, 2018 04:36AM

  Re: Goff has a great arm---but he is 'wristy'

Steve253July 29, 2018 04:45AM

  Re: Goff has a great arm---but he is 'wristy'

zn248July 29, 2018 01:25PM

  It's been my experience that is so.....

SunTzu_vs_Camus254July 29, 2018 01:43PM

  Re: It's been my experience that is so.....

zn203July 29, 2018 07:59PM

  Goff's a natural, effortless passer...ya got it or ya don't...

SunTzu_vs_Camus243July 30, 2018 01:16AM

  Re: Goff's a natural, effortless passer...ya got it or ya don't...

zn299July 30, 2018 04:18AM

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Rams43227July 30, 2018 05:56AM

  cool post and VinnyB feedback.

max215July 30, 2018 06:13AM

  I remember a camp video report from last year...

Saguaro225July 30, 2018 08:11AM

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zn190July 30, 2018 08:16AM

  Re: Goff's a natural, effortless passer...ya got it or ya don't...

Steve196July 30, 2018 06:30AM

  many ways to success...many styles....that can work

SunTzu_vs_Camus201July 30, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: many ways to success...many styles....that can work

Steve199July 30, 2018 10:54AM

  Terry Bradshaw re: wrist vs body throwing

Steve241July 31, 2018 04:32AM

  Re: Goff has a great arm---but he is 'wristy'--ZN

Steve230July 30, 2018 06:23AM

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Steve211July 30, 2018 10:52AM

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21Dog264July 29, 2018 04:37AM

  LOL...

SunTzu_vs_Camus356July 29, 2018 03:05AM

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Saguaro262July 29, 2018 10:32AM

  Re: I'm going to inch out a little farther on the Goff limb.

AlbaNY_Ram399July 29, 2018 04:24AM

  that's to be expected

zn306July 28, 2018 03:23PM

  Re: that's to be expected

max245July 28, 2018 07:17PM

  the ways in which Goff can improve this year

zn309July 30, 2018 04:21AM

  Thanks for posting! And...

Ramadune475July 28, 2018 02:48PM